Match Officials

[Give it to Ron]

I know its a bit unusual to have thread about the ref and lino's but I thought yesterday's were the best I have seen at SMS in ages.

They got every decision spot on IMO.

For the penalty the linesman flag went straight up and the ref gave it on his advice - how many times this season have they ducked out?

Edited 1 March, 2009 by Give it to Ron

[Saint_clark]

Did you see the Championship? Perry blatantly handballed it in the area in the second half.

[krissyboy31]

I know its a bit unusual to have thread about the ref and lino's but I thought yesterday's were the [ ] I have seen at SMS in ages.

They got every decision spot on IMO.

For the penalty the linesman flag went straight up and the ref gave it on his advice - how many times this season have they ducked out?

 

You've missed out a particularly relevant word. I guess by the tone of your post you meant to say they were "best" but for us that couldn't make the game for all we know, they could have been the "worst".

[Give it to Ron]

Did you see the Championship? Perry blatantly handballed it in the area in the second half.

 

Thats what I meant...how good they were! Apart from that incident then.

[hamster]

Was funny when the lino slipped into the corner flag, both sets of fans sang "she fell ober", and he smiled back.

[miserableoldgit]

I don`t think that it was just because we won both games, but the official both yesterday and last week were better than the numptys that we usually get.

[Whitey Grandad]

I don`t think that it was just because we won both games, but the official both yesterday and last week were better than the numptys that we usually get.

I agree absolutely. The ref controlled the game throughout, had a quiet word when necessary and kept his cards in his pocket (mostly). I thought he got a couple on decisions wrong, but I'm prepared to accept that his opinion may be different from mine. Both officials appear to have missed Perry's handball and I was too far away to have a view about Saga's penalty claim. On the whole I would be happy to see either of the last couple of refs back at St. Marys again (and please God, never Mike Riley).

[rockhill]

Have a look

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgIc7a9dnI0

[Evil Monkey]

Was funny when the lino slipped into the corner flag, both sets of fans sang "she fell ober", and he smiled back.

 

I was singing 'she fell over.' Boy is my face red.

[docker-p]

Yeah the officals were the best we've had for ages. A good indication is how many times they get the book out. I think only JE was booked yesterday late on.

[sidthesquid]

Generally CCC officials are pretty good - made easier because most CCC players play football in the right spirit, little niggle or diving, just full-blooded physical competition. You notice it more when you get an Rse like Riley down here

[southamptonfclegend]

Generally CCC officials are pretty good - made easier because most CCC players play football in the right spirit, little niggle or diving, just full-blooded physical competition. You notice it more when you get an Rse like Riley down here

 

are you being serious? how many this season have been sh*t is a lot more than have been any good tbh, i've seen some diabolical refereeing

[knellster]

I wonder if "our" view of the referee's performance would have been the same if we were 1-0 down and he hadn't given a penalty for a Cardiff defender handling in the same way that Perry did, or if he had given the penalty against Perry after not giving one for the foul on Saga. For what it's worth I thought he did well generally, but I though he got two major decisions wrong - they just happened to cancel each other out.

 

Also, I have never understood the view that a good referee doesn't show yellow cards. I've seen loads of referees who haven't shown cards when they should, and games have just degenerated into wars. Usually it's the behaviour of the players that determines people's view of the referee - if they behave and he has nothing to do then everybody says the referee was good, but if they act like arses then he's always the villain for showing lots of cards.

[eelpie]

The lino on the Kingsland side seemed to give offside decisions only when the offending player had touched the ball, so players had to run unnecessary yards before the delayed whistle, while the other linesman blew immediately. Anyone else notice they were officiating to different rules? Who was correct?

[Eastcowzer]

are you being serious? how many this season have been sh*t is a lot more than have been any good tbh, i've seen some diabolical refereeing

 

There's another pillock tonight,at Ipwich.

One A d'Urso, Esq, Premier-ship failed

[Scummer]

The lino on the Kingsland side seemed to give offside decisions only when the offending player had touched the ball, so players had to run unnecessary yards before the delayed whistle, while the other linesman blew immediately. Anyone else notice they were officiating to different rules? Who was correct?

 

Technically, it's the one who only flagged when the player got to the ball. It's a bloody stupid rule though.

[Whitey Grandad]

Technically, it's the one who only flagged when the player got to the ball. It's a bloody stupid rule though.

They are supposed to wait until the 'offending' player 'interferes' with play or an opponent. I would have thought that running for the ball would count as interfering but FIFA have a very liberal interpretation which I think is crazy:

 

• “interfering with play” means playing or touching the ball passed or touched by a team-mate

• “interfering with an opponent” means preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent

• “gaining an advantage by being in that position” means playing a ball that rebounds to him off a goalpost or the crossbar having been in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an opponent having been in an offside position

[Ken Tone]

They are supposed to wait until the 'offending' player 'interferes' with play or an opponent. I would have thought that running for the ball would count as interfering but FIFA have a very liberal interpretation which I think is crazy:

 

• “interfering with play” means playing or touching the ball passed or touched by a team-mate

• “interfering with an opponent” means preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent

• “gaining an advantage by being in that position” means playing a ball that rebounds to him off a goalpost or the crossbar having been in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an opponent having been in an offside position

 

Quite. So technically the pedantic one who waited until the players had run like hell, risked injury in a desperate sliding tackle by the defender etc, and then finally blew up as the ball was touched, was right. But it's a damn silly rule.

 

Meanwhile on the tv that morning before leaving for our game I watched part of the everton match, where their goal was allowed even though a player ran forward in an offside postion in the 6 yard box as the scorer headed in. He didn't touch the ball and didnt actually get in a defender's way, but if he wasn't distracting the defence and gaining an advantage then I'm a Dutchman (but not necessarily a very good coach ;-) )

 

It's no wonder non-fans dont understand the offside rule. I've been watching live games for nearly 40 years and I can't bloody understand it now either.

 

K.

[Whitey Grandad]

Quite. So technically the pedantic one who waited until the players had run like hell, risked injury in a desperate sliding tackle by the defender etc, and then finally blew up as the ball was touched, was right. But it's a damn silly rule.

 

Meanwhile on the tv that morning before leaving for our game I watched part of the everton match, where their goal was allowed even though a player ran forward in an offside postion in the 6 yard box as the scorer headed in. He didn't touch the ball and didnt actually get in a defender's way, but if he wasn't distracting the defence and gaining an advantage then I'm a Dutchman (but not necessarily a very good coach ;-) )

 

It's no wonder non-fans dont understand the offside rule. I've been watching live games for nearly 40 years and I can't bloody understand it now either.

The basic problem is that the referee is in the best place to decide if someone is interfering by, for example, blocking or distracting the goalkeeper, whereas the official on the line is in the best place to see if they are actually offside or not, especially when there is a crowd of attackers in the 6-yard box. According to FIFA, if you're offside and try to head the ball just in front of the keeper but miss it, that's ok so long as you don't actually touch the ball. Alternatively you could be goalhanging in the penalty area and if your colleague gets the jump on the defence you're not offside so long as by the time the ball is played to you, you are behind it. All this is lunacy. FIFA say that they want to encourage more goals but what is wrong with encouraging good defending?