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[70's Mike]

or new quote.

Pick up of the mat when i get home from work this weeks Advertiser.

Picture of Wotte and Lowe on back.

Wotte basically defending Rupert

but he then says

"i would never stop going to a club because they have a chairman or a chief executive that i do not like" fair comment but he then adds " then, for me, you are not really truly a dedicated supporter of the clubbecause if you are a real fan its for worse and for better , it is good times and bad times"

 

Whether it is true or not , it does not seem like a good time to be saying it. I hope it is not a new article but if it is who the hell is advising this guy.

[stevegrant]

I suspect it's a rehash of an old quote.

 

That said, it does actually make a refreshing change for a manager (or a player, for that matter) to come out and actually say what they think rather than hide behind tired clichés and platitudes.

 

While it might not be universally popular, it does show a very obvious grit and determination about the bloke which I admire greatly.

[ottery st mary]

Maybe Wotte genuinely really.. really likes Rupert..A sort of Man Luv. As some of the posters on this forum really really luv me.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I suspect it's a rehash of an old quote.

 

That said, it does actually make a refreshing change for a manager (or a player, for that matter) to come out and actually say what they think rather than hide behind tired clichés and platitudes.

 

While it might not be universally popular, it does show a very obvious grit and determination about the bloke which I admire greatly.

 

Normally I would agree with you 100% Steve, but there are occasions when the manager should not involve himself in club politics especially when he appears to be taking sides in a Board v Supporters issue. He does not need to walk on thin ice at this particular moment.

[lenwilkins]

I suspect it's a rehash of an old quote.

 

That said, it does actually make a refreshing change for a manager (or a player, for that matter) to come out and actually say what they think rather than hide behind tired clichés and platitudes.

 

While it might not be universally popular, it does show a very obvious grit and determination about the bloke which I admire greatly.

 

or a bloke who engages mouth before brain and has no tactical awareness of

who has made this club what it is today ie the supporters.

[Scudamore]

or a bloke who engages mouth before brain and has no tactical awareness of

who has made this club what it is today ie the supporters.

 

That would count for every club though non?

[stevegrant]

Normally I would agree with you 100% Steve, but there are occasions when the manager should not involve himself in club politics especially when he appears to be taking sides in a Board v Supporters issue. He does not need to walk on thin ice at this particular moment.

You mean when he's siding with someone you disapprove of? in cheek>

 

Seriously, it's clear that he's got a great deal of respect for Lowe (unsurprisingly), and also believes that the survival job is going to be tough enough without peoples' focus being diverted away from that big green thing inside the ground at this vital time of the season.

 

Personally, I don't think there's ever a "good" time to make what is likely to be an unpopular statement. However, sometimes people feel that certain things need to be out in the open, and Wotte's obviously felt that this is one such time.

 

The bloke's got balls, I'll give him that - I hope it doesn't backfire on him.

[krissyboy31]

I think it's a Dutch thing and the way they use language. They are not the world's greatest diplomats because they come over as arrogant (generalising).

 

He is basically saying that we all need to pull in the same direction to get out of the mess we are in, which is fair enough. However he said it in a way that antagonises a large percentage of the fan-base, which is counter productive.

 

IMO he should say nothing and let the football and results do the talking for him.

[ottery st mary]

It is all rather cheeeesy in my mature way..eDamm.

[SaintRobbie]

Normally I would agree with you 100% Steve, but there are occasions when the manager should not involve himself in club politics especially when he appears to be taking sides in a Board v Supporters issue. He does not need to walk on thin ice at this particular moment.

 

I agree. I also sort of go with Steve's sentiment - but when you've actually been a large part of the problem in the first place it does get on my nerves when Wotte consistently thinks he has to have a go at the fans.

 

I'll say it again in case this isnt a rehash: 'Shut up Wotte and get on with keeping the club in this league and undoing the appalling rubbish you've contributed to so far this season.'

[Danbert]

I suspect it's a rehash of an old quote.

 

That said, it does actually make a refreshing change for a manager (or a player, for that matter) to come out and actually say what they think rather than hide behind tired clichés and platitudes.

 

While it might not be universally popular, it does show a very obvious grit and determination about the bloke which I admire greatly.

 

I think you'll find not slagging off your boss in public is actually the no-backbone option.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

You mean when he's siding with someone you disapprove of? in cheek>

 

Seriously, it's clear that he's got a great deal of respect for Lowe (unsurprisingly), and also believes that the survival job is going to be tough enough without peoples' focus being diverted away from that big green thing inside the ground at this vital time of the season.

 

Personally, I don't think there's ever a "good" time to make what is likely to be an unpopular statement. However, sometimes people feel that certain things need to be out in the open, and Wotte's obviously felt that this is one such time.

 

The bloke's got balls, I'll give him that - I hope it doesn't backfire on him.

 

Nah Steve, Lowe pays him - end off!

[Weston Saint]

Nah Steve, Lowe pays him - end off!

Actually the club pay him unless Lowe is dipping his hand in his pocket

[70's Mike]

Actually the club pay him unless Lowe is dipping his hand in his pocket

 

pockets have been stiched up for 12 years for withdrawals only cash in allowed

[NickG]

Normally I would agree with you 100% Steve, but there are occasions when the manager should not involve himself in club politics especially when he appears to be taking sides in a Board v Supporters issue. He does not need to walk on thin ice at this particular moment.

 

 

I would say its exactly the opposite - reminding fans that it is about football not (often childish) politics.

[solentstars]

I suspect it's a rehash of an old quote.

 

That said, it does actually make a refreshing change for a manager (or a player, for that matter) to come out and actually say what they think rather than hide behind tired clichés and platitudes.

 

While it might not be universally popular, it does show a very obvious grit and determination about the bloke which I admire greatly.

thats what i like about the guy,he could have told some fans what they want to hear,but i have more respect for him being his own man .

[Mole]

or new quote.

Pick up of the mat when i get home from work this weeks Advertiser.

Picture of Wotte and Lowe on back.

Wotte basically defending Rupert

but he then says

"i would never stop going to a club because they have a chairman or a chief executive that i do not like" fair comment but he then adds " then, for me, you are not really truly a dedicated supporter of the clubbecause if you are a real fan its for worse and for better , it is good times and bad times"

 

Whether it is true or not , it does not seem like a good time to be saying it. I hope it is not a new article but if it is who the hell is advising this guy.

 

This just confirms that Wotte is a t0sser.

[NickG]

This just confirms that Wotte is a t0sser.

 

were his comments bit close to home for you?

[saint_bert]

or new quote.

Pick up of the mat when i get home from work this weeks Advertiser.

Picture of Wotte and Lowe on back.

Wotte basically defending Rupert

but he then says

"i would never stop going to a club because they have a chairman or a chief executive that i do not like" fair comment but he then adds " then, for me, you are not really truly a dedicated supporter of the clubbecause if you are a real fan its for worse and for better , it is good times and bad times"

 

Whether it is true or not , it does not seem like a good time to be saying it. I hope it is not a new article but if it is who the hell is advising this guy.

 

He also says we were clinging on for survival on the last day of last season when Rupert wasnt here, with an older more expensive team.

 

Clearly forgetting that the season before we finished 6th and these older players coming back into the team now, have put us back into some sort of contention of not going down before the last day of the season this year. So a little bit of thought and due care before choosing your words might go a long way Mr Woote.

 

Also I think it is an old article.

[Frank's cousin]

Normally I would agree with you 100% Steve, but there are occasions when the manager should not involve himself in club politics especially when he appears to be taking sides in a Board v Supporters issue. He does not need to walk on thin ice at this particular moment.

 

This is NOT club politics Duncan - Unless you chose to make it so - this is a manager simply saying he believes fans should support whatever is going on in the boardroom, because thats what 'supporters' do? Fair enough if you dont agree, but I think he has every right to say it.

 

Even if very cynical and you believe that hes been told to get on the PR bandwagon, why is it that we treat football as different from any other job - he is employed by the club, and is doing what is expected - tow the line and promote the idea that we NEED more fans back at the club to help ease the financial pressures and get behind the team for the relagtion fight.

 

Seems to me that we are happy for managers or ex-managers to slag the board and moan, because they are agreeing with the 'majority' - but when a manager tows the club line and seems to working well with Lowe, he becomes the 'enemy'.... its quite sad that its come to this.

 

Folk are offended because the truth hurts - real fans DO stick with the club through thick and thin - and support through the darkest hours - this is not about saving rupert but about saving the club. I suggest many on here think that by are affraid to say it because its 'contovercial' or could be considered to be supporting Lowe...

 

BUt what Wotte maybe does need to accept is that the reduction in gates is probably only down a few hundred as a 'protest' against Lowe, the biggets reductions have been CCC football, poor results and poor performances - if he gets that right, gates will increase whatever happens with Lowe.

Edited 13 March, 2009 by Frank's cousin

[Saint 76er]

Make no mistake, Wotte has turned himself into Rupert's mouthpiece since the latter has ducked (clever play on words there! ) for cover and withdrawn from public speaking since the protests started up.

 

Presumably Lowe has been filling his head with all this anti fan stuff and Wotte may indeed think it smart to toe the party line. However, our head coach may do well to understand that action taken by disaffected fans is because they are REAL fans who love the club and simply can't bear to sit back and watch it's demise (read train wreck) under the present administration dominated by Lowe.

 

Surely only those with a specific Lowe agenda could possibly think this club would be better off continuing with him at the helm? In his two tenures since the cup final I cannot conceive that anyone could possibly have performed his role so disastrously as that man has.

 

We are now on the edge of oblivion, when post cup final it seemed we could have achieved almost anything with the right leadership. Like most of you, I could simply weep when I think of it.

 

This is the reason, Mr Wotte, why fans will not support the current board and fans actions are with a view to saving this great club, not destroying it.

 

I think you may have gotten your facts wrong on that one and you might like to refer the matter back to your mate Rupert for clarification perhaps.....

[Frank's cousin]

Make no mistake, Wotte has turned himself into Rupert's mouthpiece since the latter has ducked (clever play on words there! ) for cover and withdrawn from public speaking since the protests started up.

 

Presumably Lowe has been filling his head with all this anti fan stuff and Wotte may indeed think it smart to toe the party line. However, our head coach may do well to understand that action taken by disaffected fans is because they are REAL fans who love the club and simply can't bear to sit back and watch it's demise (read train wreck) under the present administration dominated by Lowe.

 

Surely only those with a specific Lowe agenda could possibly think this club would be better off continuing with him at the helm? In his two tenures since the cup final I cannot conceive that anyone could possibly have performed his role so disastrously as that man has.

 

We are now on the edge of oblivion, when post cup final it seemed we could have achieved almost anything with the right leadership. Like most of you, I could simply weep when I think of it.

 

This is the reason, Mr Wotte, why fans will not support the current board and fans actions are with a view to saving this great club, not destroying it.

 

I think you may have gotten your facts wrong on that one and you might like to refer the matter back to your mate Rupert for clarification perhaps.....

 

 

'Post cup final it seemed we could achieve almost anything' - Classic - can you explain (I have only asked this question about 200 times since this rhetoric was first introduced) how we would have funded this 'limitless opportunity' - You are living in cloud cookooland and no one has yet offered a suitable and realistic argument for how we could have 'progressed' without serious cash injection. Sure we were on a roll, we had momentum, but we had not additional funds to support the potential ina division where you need to spend evertything you can just to stand still. Unbelieveable.

 

A shed load of mistakes have been made since then by Lowe, Wilde and Crouch and combined with just plain old bad luck we have had a miserable few years, and yes the blame falls squarley at the various incumbants during that time - All of them. That does not mean that they are exclusively to blame, because you know that little thing called finance does play a major part.

 

Whatever ideals, whatever you like to believe in , there is one simple fact - the reduced gate has had a MAJOR impact on our ability to progress - the reduced revenues directly impact policy and the players we can attract and afford to keep. Wotte is merely expressing the need and yes the board will express the same thing to get more fans back - to SUPPORT the club - the mark of true fans is that they try and attend as much as they can no matter how dark it gets - for the good of the club NOT the good of the board.

[david in sweden]

I think it's a Dutch thing and the way they use language. They are not the world's greatest diplomats because they come over as arrogant (generalising).

 

He is basically saying that we all need to pull in the same direction to get out of the mess we are in, which is fair enough. However he said it in a way that antagonises a large percentage of the fan-base, which is counter productive.

 

IMO he should say nothing and let the football and results do the talking for him.

 

 

Exactly krissyboy,

I've posted several threads about this in the past and (as a teacher of languages) I recognise the " apparant errors / freudian slips " that sneak into some comments. He's seems like a tough nut (in that respect similar to Pearson) and doesn't waste time trying to call a spade ..a shovel !

 

The fact that MW s not working in his first language explains a lot of the mis-use of vocabulary. He's treading a tightrope too, especially in our present situation he's hardly likely to aggrevate any one on the Board whilst in front of a group of journalists - is he ?

 

IF - heaven forbid - we do go down, I'd keep him on next season but that won't happen if he's openly critical of the clubs administration. He'd just become another casualty in the battle !

[Saint 76er]

'Post cup final it seemed we could achieve almost anything' - Classic - can you explain (I have only asked this question about 200 times since this rhetoric was first introduced) how we would have funded this 'limitless opportunity' - You are living in cloud cookooland and no one has yet offered a suitable and realistic argument for how we could have 'progressed' without serious cash injection. Sure we were on a roll, we had momentum, but we had not additional funds to support the potential ina division where you need to spend evertything you can just to stand still. Unbelieveable.

 

A shed load of mistakes have been made since then by Lowe, Wilde and Crouch and combined with just plain old bad luck we have had a miserable few years, and yes the blame falls squarley at the various incumbants during that time - All of them. That does not mean that they are exclusively to blame, because you know that little thing called finance does play a major part.

 

Whatever ideals, whatever you like to believe in , there is one simple fact - the reduced gate has had a MAJOR impact on our ability to progress - the reduced revenues directly impact policy and the players we can attract and afford to keep. Wotte is merely expressing the need and yes the board will express the same thing to get more fans back - to SUPPORT the club - the mark of true fans is that they try and attend as much as they can no matter how dark it gets - for the good of the club NOT the good of the board.

 

Please don't keep using finance as an apology for everything that Lowe has done to our football club.

 

There has been plenty of money along the way, it's a question of what happened to it. Wilde's people wasted some certainly, but Lowe was in control when much of it passed through.

 

I haven't done the maths but prior to the Swansea game I think Garry Monk said we had received 52 million in transfer monies in recent years and he couldn't understand why we had fallen so far. There was parachute payments as well of course.

 

Lowe did not spend much of this on the team whist he was in control and giving Harry just 90000 pre season (for Fuller) was a catalyst to where we are now. It seriously looked like he wanted Harry to fail and indeed we duly got relegated.

 

How anyone can now come out and defend Lowe is beyond me, and as for demanding that long suffering fans continue to fork out their hard earned to prop up his failing regime... well Saints preserve us.

 

I'll tell you this, if you want fans through the gate to inject funds into the club then get Lowe out NOW. If he goes the joy will come back into supporting Saints for so many, and in whatever league, the true fans of this club will return and put money into the coffers once more.

 

Lowe is the problem, not the solution.....

[Frank's cousin]

Please don't keep using finance as an apology for everything that Lowe has done to our football club.

 

There has been plenty of money along the way, it's a question of what happened to it. Wilde's people wasted some certainly, but Lowe was in control when much of it passed through.

 

I haven't done the maths but prior to the Swansea game I think Garry Monk said we had received 52 million in transfer monies in recent years and he couldn't understand why we had fallen so far. There was parachute payments as well of course.

 

Lowe did not spend much of this on the team whist he was in control and giving Harry just 90000 pre season (for Fuller) was a catalyst to where we are now. It seriously looked like he wanted Harry to fail and indeed we duly got relegated.

 

How anyone can now come out and defend Lowe is beyond me, and as for demanding that long suffering fans continue to fork out their hard earned to prop up his failing regime... well Saints preserve us.

 

I'll tell you this, if you want fans through the gate to inject funds into the club then get Lowe out NOW. If he goes the joy will come back into supporting Saints for so many, and in whatever league, the true fans of this club will return and put money into the coffers once more.

 

Lowe is the problem, not the solution.....

 

I suggest you review the last 5 years audited accounts if you want to know where the money went... Statements such as 'where did it go' etc are totally unhelpful and ignorant as it 'implies' some kind of dodgy dealings, which is simply not the case - This is not about defending Lowe, but about getting to the truth before just coming out with this kind of rhetoric - and as for getting fans back - Lowe could go tomorrow and we still would not see a major change in gates unless we start wining more... apart form the 100 or so 'protestors'.... 'Proping up his regime'? Boll0x , its about proping up the club, the one you profess to support - Lowe will be gone one day, no doubt about that, but if fans keep staying away, you may not have a club to come back to. SFC is more important than some vendetta against a bloody chairman, because we cant get over relegation and having a sheite team.....

[aintforever]

I suggest you review the last 5 years audited accounts if you want to know where the money went... Statements such as 'where did it go' etc are totally unhelpful and ignorant as it 'implies' some kind of dodgy dealings' date=' which is simply not the case - This is not about defending Lowe, but about getting to the truth before just coming out with this kind of rhetoric - and as for getting fans back - Lowe could go tomorrow and we still would not see a major change in gates unless we start wining more... apart form the 100 or so 'protestors'.... 'Proping up his regime'? Boll0x , its about proping up the club, the one you profess to support - Lowe will be gone one day, no doubt about that, but if fans keep staying away, you may not have a club to come back to. SFC is more important than some vendetta against a bloody chairman, because we cant get over relegation and having a sheite team.....[/quote']

 

I disagree, I cannot see any future for this club with Lowe still making the decisions - This season he has again proved how inept he is with the crazy Total Football experiments - the mind boggels as to how he will cope in League 1.

 

I think the best future for SFC is to force Lowe out - whatever it takes. Administration could be bad, but it could also help the club lose the PLC and Lowe and in the long term that is more likely to mean good IMO.

[70's Mike]

'Post cup final it seemed we could achieve almost anything' - Classic - can you explain (I have only asked this question about 200 times since this rhetoric was first introduced) how we would have funded this 'limitless opportunity' - You are living in cloud cookooland and no one has yet offered a suitable and realistic argument for how we could have 'progressed' without serious cash injection. Sure we were on a roll, we had momentum, but we had not additional funds to support the potential ina division where you need to spend evertything you can just to stand still. Unbelieveable.

 

A shed load of mistakes have been made since then by Lowe, Wilde and Crouch and combined with just plain old bad luck we have had a miserable few years, and yes the blame falls squarley at the various incumbants during that time - All of them. That does not mean that they are exclusively to blame, because you know that little thing called finance does play a major part.

 

Whatever ideals, whatever you like to believe in , there is one simple fact - the reduced gate has had a MAJOR impact on our ability to progress - the reduced revenues directly impact policy and the players we can attract and afford to keep. Wotte is merely expressing the need and yes the board will express the same thing to get more fans back - to SUPPORT the club - the mark of true fans is that they try and attend as much as they can no matter how dark it gets - for the good of the club NOT the good of the board.

 

 

Chicken or Egg , though Frank , the gates have reduced because of the poor way we chose since 2003 to spend the money we had, which led to progressively weaker teams which led to smaller gates.

[(not THE) Kevin Moore]

If anyone can point to any factual inaccuracies in Wotte's statement I'd be very grateful, as far as I'm concerned he's just described a 'football supporter' I can accept that his statement might be a little bit close to home for some/many on here.

 

FWIW the song goes: 'Southampton til I die' not 'Southampton til I die, or until a bit of a ****tish chairman comes along who I don't like in which case I'll stop going and then maybe I'll start going again if he leaves... but only if I like the new bloke more'

[NickG]

If anyone can point to any factual inaccuracies in Wotte's statement I'd be very grateful, as far as I'm concerned he's just described a 'football supporter' I can accept that his statement might be a little bit close to home for some/many on here.

 

FWIW the song goes: 'Southampton til I die' not 'Southampton til I die, or until a bit of a ****tish chairman comes along who I don't like in which case I'll stop going and then maybe I'll start going again if he leaves... but only if I like the new bloke more'

 

good post!

[um pahars]

Chicken or Egg ' date=' though Frank , the gates have reduced because of the poor way we chose since 2003 to spend the money we had, which led to progressively weaker teams which led to smaller gates.[/quote']

 

Absolutely.

 

Every club has a hardcore of supporters who will come what may, but after that it has to rely on winning over the next tranche of supporters either through results or through goodwill.

 

It's just a fact of life that either the team will have to perform or the Club has to engender a spirit of togetherness to temot them back.

 

To blame the missing supporters somewhat misses the point and rather than moan at the symptons, the blame should lie at the door fo the problem.

[Saint 76er]

I disagree, I cannot see any future for this club with Lowe still making the decisions - This season he has again proved how inept he is with the crazy Total Football experiments - the mind boggels as to how he will cope in League 1.

 

I think the best future for SFC is to force Lowe out - whatever it takes. Administration could be bad, but it could also help the club lose the PLC and Lowe and in the long term that is more likely to mean good IMO.

 

Excellent post and sums up the situation very succinctly.

 

The whole point that the PR crew are trying to deflect attention away from is that this club has no realistic future under Lowe and can only begin to repair itself once he has left for good.

 

Therefore any attempt to hasten his departure is being done for the long term betterment of the club, not the opposite, and I would suggest ignoring any PR abuse about 'bad fans' for not propping up Lowe's regime to enable him to still be here next season.

 

Regarding Lowe and next season, since our three wins there have been calls for all protests to be put on hold until the summer, but what can be done then? Lowe will likely be away on another holiday and the club will be in summer close down mode. So who are you going to protest to at that time?

 

I sincerely hope that protesters will continue their actions for the rest of this season as Lowe does seem to be feeling the pressure and I really do believe that removing him is the key to the future of SFC, regardless of what league we are in or even administration....

[Red and White Army]

Normally I would agree with you 100% Steve, but there are occasions when the manager should not involve himself in club politics especially when he appears to be taking sides in a Board v Supporters issue. He does not need to walk on thin ice at this particular moment.

 

Amazingly you disagree with someone siding with Rupert. What a major surprise that is Duncan!

[Frank's cousin]

Chicken or Egg ' date=' though Frank , the gates have reduced because of the poor way we chose since 2003 to spend the money we had, which led to progressively weaker teams which led to smaller gates.[/quote']

 

And there is no doubt that you are correct, as a club the way we spent what money we had has been littered with 'errors', I wont argue as the list of players brought in by successive managers has been hit and miss to say the least - I still believe that Lowe's biggest error of judgement was his belief that we had enough quality in 2004/5 to survive under wigley, afterall it was still the majority of the squad that we had in 2003 - although the loss of the Mazza/Bridge width on the left was a major blow, that we found impossible to replace - but that's not what this is about really, as the post above states, its 'saints til I die' not 'saints until I die unless there is someone I believe to be a d!ckhead in the boardroom, in which case I wont go'

 

BUt to be honest, Wotte is not really in reality talking about the protestors as Those actually staying away because of Lowe is probably a few hundred. He's most likely trying to encourage those who are staying away because of results and poor value for money as they see it, to come back and help swell the coffers. Whether its his own opinion, or he's well and truely doing the club PR spin is actually irrelevent, because ultimately what he has said is true, even if it offends the anti Lowe's...

[70's Mike]

And there is no doubt that you are correct, as a club the way we spent what money we had has been littered with 'errors', I wont argue as the list of players brought in by successive managers has been hit and miss to say the least - I still believe that Lowe's biggest error of judgement was his belief that we had enough quality in 2004/5 to survive under wigley, afterall it was still the majority of the squad that we had in 2003 - although the loss of the Mazza/Bridge width on the left was a major blow, that we found impossible to replace - but that's not what this is about really, as the post above states, its 'saints til I die' not 'saints until I die unless there is someone I believe to be a d!ckhead in the boardroom, in which case I wont go'

 

BUt to be honest, Wotte is not really in reality talking about the protestors as Those actually staying away because of Lowe is probably a few hundred. He's most likely trying to encourage those who are staying away because of results and poor value for money as they see it, to come back and help swell the coffers. Whether its his own opinion, or he's well and truely doing the club PR spin is actually irrelevent, because ultimately what he has said is true, even if it offends the anti Lowe's...

 

 

factually i cannot argue with you Frank but the man has been , imo, poorly advised to get involved in this debate.

he is now seen as completely lowes puppet and will always have that tag, the problem is , again imo. the majority of the 15000 hardcore blame lowe for our problems and those 15k want the manager/coach to run the first team and not be talking about lowe as he did in the rest of the article

[Frank's cousin]

factually i cannot argue with you Frank but the man has been , imo, poorly advised to get involved in this debate.

he is now seen as completely lowes puppet and will always have that tag, the problem is , again imo. the majority of the 15000 hardcore blame lowe for our problems and those 15k want the manager/coach to run the first team and not be talking about lowe as he did in the rest of the article

 

I understand you, but i think the problem is that it has become so intrinsically linked. We get results and Wotte is doing so despite the board, we do badly and he's part of Lowe's misguided plan, He wants more supporters as any club would, to return and encourage the team, and gets grief for being a puppet, despite simply being an employee and as such SHOULD like all employees publically at least tow the club line. I dont think he's saying that fans should not ahve their opinion or not blame lowe if thats what they believe, but saying even if you do, you should still come and support the team as it might make all the difference in the 12th man POV and hopefully relieve the financial pressures a little... and that suppoprting is MORE important than the politics as thats what the wourd means...is there really anything wrong with that?