Mr X Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Are you listening Lowe? be a man and admit you played a part in our downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Are you listening Lowe? be a man and admit you played a part in our downfall. Ain't going to happen,let it go fella.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Are you listening Lowe? be a man and admit you played a part in our downfall. He did in all his tv and prss interviews when he said all should shoulder some of the blame.He didnt make that the main part of his thrust I'll grant you.he has as much trouble saying sorry as Gordon brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2009 [/b] Ain't going to happen,let it go fella.. Yeah I know sorry it just winds me up that he cant be man enough to admit some blame, I dont believe he is solely responsible but I believe his crazy appointments have been a major factor in our demise, would it hurt to show the fans a little humility? Yep i have to forget and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Are you listening Lowe? be a man and admit you played a part in our downfall. At least that is more balanced who did MLT think should also shoulder some of the responsibility for our fate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Yeah I know sorry it just winds me up that he cant be man enough to admit some blame, I dont believe he is solely responsible but I believe his crazy appointments have been a major factor in our demise, would it hurt to show the fans a little humility? Yep i have to forget and move on To any normal person,no,but this is Rupert Lowe we are talking about. Too add,i concur with your sentiments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 At least that is more balanced who did MLT think should also shoulder some of the responsibility for our fate? I havent read the whole article but i think it says 'he should take some of the blame.'Which is something that i have and I suggest most of us have said all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 At least that is more balanced who did MLT think should also shoulder some of the responsibility for our fate? Anyone who let Lowe anywhere near the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I havent read the whole article but i think it says 'he should take some of the blame.'Which is something that i have and I suggest most of us have said all along. Exactly Nick but its almost as though he is taking the full hit to deflect the attention from others and that is unacceptable and without doubt the reason Lowe went on his post admin media round. To a man none of us would have done anything any different had we been in Lowe's position of trial by a kangaroo court. I hope MLT at least has the sense to make comment on where else he feels the club went wrong and who should be accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Anyone who let Lowe anywhere near the club. You didn't enjoy the relative success then of 1997 through to 2004? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Are you listening Lowe? be a man and admit you played a part in our downfall. yawn. :smt119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 He did in all his tv and prss interviews when he said all should shoulder some of the blame.He didnt make that the main part of his thrust I'll grant you.he has as much trouble saying sorry as Gordon brown No he didn't. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Are you listening Lowe? be a man and admit you played a part in our downfall. Mr X will you be sending about 5,000 emails to our alledged supporters who made Mr Wilde look more visible? Don't forget a special email to Wilde and Crouch whilst you're at it but I suspect you can look closer to home for a prime example of a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Apparently there's an article on the FA website saying that if Lowe admits blame we'll get a 10 point bonus. I can understand why you want it so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Apparently there's an article on the FA website saying that if Lowe admits blame we'll get a 10 point bonus. I can understand why you want it so much. So this man, who apparently has a genuine affection for the club won't even profer a pretend apology in order for the club to gain 10 points when it is in danger of being relegated? Unbelievable. And people wonder why he's unpopular. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 You didn't enjoy the relative success then of 1997 through to 2004? I was making a little joke - something I know you find conceptually obscure. Tell me, is there any subject, other than Lowe, on which you post? Just seems odd to me: someone with your track record wanting to be so strongly associated with a character so infused with failure and desperate hubris. Cut him loose and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I just don't see what difference a mea culpa it will make to our current predicament. For the record this is what he said (various variations of this): "Lowe believes the responsibility for Saints' predicament must be shared by all at the club. He added: 'Everybody who has been involved in the club, whether that's the board, everybody, has to bear a little bit of the blame.'" Personally I think that is true, and I know I am in the minority, but why should one person accept the blame? He hasn't missed two penalties in a game for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I just don't see what difference a mea culpa it will make to our current predicament. For the record this is what he said (various variations of this): "Lowe believes the responsibility for Saints' predicament must be shared by all at the club. He added: 'Everybody who has been involved in the club, whether that's the board, everybody, has to bear a little bit of the blame.'" Personally I think that is true, and I know I am in the minority, but why should one person accept the blame? He hasn't missed two penalties in a game for example. Wrong!!! He belives and has said so that everyone else is to blame and accepts none for himself... Maybe, just maybe if the arrogant **** accepted some responsibility people could move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Mr X will you be sending about 5,000 emails to our alledged supporters who made Mr Wilde look more visible? Don't forget a special email to Wilde and Crouch whilst you're at it but I suspect you can look closer to home for a prime example of a scapegoat. WTF the thread is about Le Tissiers comments on solent not mine, I have already stated in a previous post above that Lowe is not 100% to blame but must take his fair share so whats with the scapegoat comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I just don't see what difference a mea culpa it will make to our current predicament. For the record this is what he said (various variations of this): "Lowe believes the responsibility for Saints' predicament must be shared by all at the club. He added: 'Everybody who has been involved in the club, whether that's the board, everybody, has to bear a little bit of the blame.'" Personally I think that is true, and I know I am in the minority, but why should one person accept the blame? He hasn't missed two penalties in a game for example. True. Those fans that destabilised the club after their protests to reinstate Glenn Hoddle in 2004 should also look at themselves and finally admit their part in the downfall of the club instead of deflecting it on to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 True. Those fans that destabilised the club after their protests to reinstate Glenn Hoddle in 2004 should also look at themselves and finally admit their part in the downfall of the club instead of deflecting it on to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Lowe won't though and anyway Matt 'some' isnt enough of the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 what about Mike Wilde's stunning contribution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 He did in all his tv and prss interviews when he said all should shoulder some of the blame.He didnt make that the main part of his thrust I'll grant you.he has as much trouble saying sorry as Gordon brown He didn't say that he should shoulder most of the blame though, did he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintleigh Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 My view, fwiw (and I know it has all been said before but I am going to put it anyway), the downfall can be put fairly and squarely at the failure to invest in the summer of 2002. Cup finalists, decent league finish and UEFA qualification - if that isn't an ideal time to invest then I don't know what is. This shortsightedness also resulted in WGS leaving. And who's decision/fault was that - LOWE, LOWE and LOWE'S. No one else's - he was/is an autocratic idiot who wouldn't accept anybody's view but his own and was always right. Say what you like but you will not change my view on that. I lay the blame of (likely) League 1 football at his door without a doubt. He has been the downfall of this club and although I believe we will survive the hurt that man has imposed on many decent football loving fan's is outrageous and unforgiveable. You can blame Wilde, Crouch etc but the foundations of this disastrous failure of the club I love were laid by Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Exactly Nick but its almost as though he is taking the full hit to deflect the attention from others and that is unacceptable and without doubt the reason Lowe went on his post admin media round. To a man none of us would have done anything any different had we been in Lowe's position of trial by a kangaroo court. I hope MLT at least has the sense to make comment on where else he feels the club went wrong and who should be accountable. kept NP...not relied solely on kids...the list is endless on how i would have done things different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Are you listening Lowe? be a man and admit you played a part in our downfall. Well of course he played a part but so did countless others I am afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Well of course he played a part but so did countless others I am afraid Are you his official spokesman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 (edited) Are you his official spokesman? Dont be a pratt just be realistic and stop making moronic comments. It is not completely Lowe's fault anybody with any sense I would have thought could see that. He was not at the club when most of the financial damage was done Edited 18 April, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Dont be a pratt just be realistic and stop making moronic comments Self appointed mod too.... As for being a prat...well there`s you, 19c...and the rest of the Lowe apologists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Dont be a pratt just be realistic and stop making moronic comments. It is not completely Lowe's fault anybody with any sense I would have thought could see that. He was not at the club when most of the financial damage was done When we had our income reduced from premiership levels to the ccc ones you mean....i think you will find he was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Lowe tell WGS that he wont buy the players he wants because he doesnt want to give money to our rivals. Lowe thinks he knows best and appoints three managers (Wigley didnt even have the qualifications),and we are relegated. Lowe brings in SCW and Simon Clifford,then builds an eye dome,instead of bringing in better players. When Lowe eventually comes back with the help of the turncoat Wilde,he gets rid of a good manager and appoints a Dutch pair of jokers who look like they couldnt run Ikea. We now face relegation yet again because of Lowe. NOW TELL ME YOU LOVVIES HE DID A GOOD JOB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Totally down to Lowe..Wilde..JP AND Wotte Hope Wotte has the decency to walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Lowe tell WGS that he wont buy the players he wants because he doesnt want to give money to our rivals. Lowe thinks he knows best and appoints three managers (Wigley didnt even have the qualifications),and we are relegasted. Lowe brings in SCW and Simon Clifford,then builds an eye dome,instead of bringing in better players. When Lowe eventually comes back with the help of the turncoat Wilde,he gets rid of a good manager and appoints a Dutch pair of jokers who look like they couldnt run Ikea. We now face relegation yet again because of Lowe. NOW TELL ME YOU LOVVIES HE DID A GOOD JOB! I suspect Numpty Canteeno will be writing a long defence AGAIN!! as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Dont be a pratt just be realistic and stop making moronic comments. It is not completely Lowe's fault anybody with any sense I would have thought could see that. He was not at the club when most of the financial damage was donePlease stop defending the indefensible. Lowe is a disgrace and I'm shocked that any so called Saints fan can defend him. Crouch and Wilde are equally as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I just don't see what difference a mea culpa it will make to our current predicament. For the record this is what he said (various variations of this): "Lowe believes the responsibility for Saints' predicament must be shared by all at the club. He added: 'Everybody who has been involved in the club, whether that's the board, everybody, has to bear a little bit of the blame.'" Personally I think that is true, and I know I am in the minority, but why should one person accept the blame? He hasn't missed two penalties in a game for example. Go on the link below, type in Rupert Lowe and listen to the interview he gave to SKY news which was almost identical to the others he was running with, and you'll get a very clear idea of where he believes the blame lies and certainly no evidence of him taking any share. http://news.sky.com/skynews/video In fact, I'll transcribe the key part here: "So my primary blame is twofold, first of all, the bank, in my opinion overlent to the club and overlent to the board, and secondly the board that presided over that period (2006-2008 ) did not act wisely, it acted with folly" The only time in the recent media circus was a small line (I think the one you mention) on one news report, but the main thrust of all his recent interviews was that the blame lies with the period between 2006-2008 and the bank and the board of that period were responsible. That interview was probably the most high profile one he conducted and that certainly sets out his position very clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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