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We’ve got Eckert Tonda Eckert I just don’t think you understand We’re doing really well Fuck the EFL We’ve got Tonda Eckert

I don’t see anyone arguing we keep him if he is subject to a long ban, but that isn’t a foregone conclusion. We’ve got much better lawyers in place now who are playing hardball with all parties. It was an absolute dereliction of duty that they weren’t in place when we needed them (Thanks Mr Parsons, the P45 is in the envelope on the table) but we have them now. Let’s see what happens next.

You’re talking way too much sense to be allowed to post on this forum. But agree completely.

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FFS diving to try to win a penalty is also cheating and you get a yellow card, you don’t get thrown out of a competition. Just because other people try to turn something into a moral high horse doesn’t mean you have to get on it. Bit more backbone required here - we have to fight our corner.

Yeah, and that may be one reason for the club’s weird silence and failure to communicate. I presume we’ve dumped (too little too late) the lawyers who gave us crap advice to start with. That’s assuming Parsons consulted lawyers before sidling up to Gibson in the boardroom. He must have done. Either way, I guess we now have some serious players telling the FA we’ve been already been punished disproportionately. So let’s hope they know what they’re doing.

So if I’ve got this right, the Tonda Out crowd want to sack him because he broke the rules, not because of the nature of the punishment. He’s brought shame on the club, and we now need to sit in the stocks and have rotten veg and shit thrown at us. Presumably you’d all think the same if the punishment had been a £2m fine and 6 point penalty, and we’d beaten Hull on Saturday to get promoted. He broke the rules. Fire him. The argument that there was no other sporting sanction available is bollocks. Plenty of people in football who are nothing to do with Saints think the punishment is way over the top. So do plenty of lawyers. And the legal precedent the EFL have now saddled themselves with is crazy. There are practical reasons why we may well have to get rid of Tonda anyway - FA ban or players’ revolt. But we’ve been walked all over once. Let’s not let it happen again.

Not your strongest argument, but do carry on. The evidence suggests nearly all serious leagues in the world don’t think spying on/scouting your opponents in the 72 hours before a match makes any discernible difference. Which is why our punishment was massively disproportionate. And why we should take a strategic view of whether we should keep Tonda or not. If either a) he gets a long FA ban or b) the players make it clear they won’t play for him, the answer is not. But we’re not there yet.

If it’s so important why isn’t it a rule in the premier league? Or the bundesliga? Or la Liga? Or serie A? I could go on but you get my point.

Biggest question for me is will the players play for him? Do they think he’s let them down or are they pissed off with the EFL/Gibson/Parsons whoever. if the players are on board for an ‘us against the world’ season then it could work. If the club had any sense - news flash, it doesn’t - it would also be battering down the door at Amazon or Netflix for a fly-on-the-wall doc series on ‘Tonda’s second season: no one likes us, we don’t care’ Great redemptive arc as we walk the league including a spicy 5-0 win on Smogside, and two 3-0 demolitions of Pompey.

Surely Wrexham will also be keen to be involved, if only to create more drama for the documentary. Bring it on!

Fuck the EFL! Exactly what they deserve

FFS SFC, get off the fucking canvas and do something. Shit at spying. Shit at defending ourselves. Shit at communicating with the fans. Shit at understanding why any of this really matters to so many people. Shit at knowing how angry fans are going to be until they’re all gone. Absolute charlatans. If I was a lawyer with time on my hands and some spare cash I’d organize a class action suit and bankrupt the fuckers before a fan-based buyout starting again in the Conference South. As for other fans, beyond the gobshite noise on social media, I’ve had loads of mates who support other teams get in touch and say it’s really harsh and sets a stupid precedent. Apart from all that I’m not angry at all.

Get over yourself. Anyone who knows anything about football knows this punishment is excessive and will store up multiple heaps of shit for the EFL for years to come. They deserve it. Doesn’t absolve the club at all, but the EFL have no idea what they’re doing.

Don’t worry I have binoculars. Some kid in town was selling a box load on the cheap

There’s a big yacht sailing up the Solent as I speak

Classic away performance in a two-legged semifinal. And when your front three all have an off day 0-0 is a very decent result.

“We clearly weren’t spying, your honour, and as evidence I’d like to present this tape of the first half” 🤣

Fucking hell lads, man up. Logged on to read a bit of build up to an important football match only to be bombarded with spy shite. I hope it is hostile. Flynn Downes will love that. Larin too. Binoculars goal celebration mandatory. Coyr

Well done Cam Archer - fair play. Larin brilliant too. Easy street.

I have one Swansea ticket available. £28 face value.

There’s 23 points between us but other than that yep pretty evenly matched for 45 mins

If you don’t play well, don’t get beat. Another point closer to 6th. Showed character. Blue line. Move on. Coyr

Almost the perfect away day that was. Apart from kicking off at midday on a Sunday, which should be a criminal offence, that was one of the best moments of the season so far. Hopefully more to come!