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F6NTE's White Bentley.

I'll tell you in about 3 years. As for the stats, do they? The Dutch League is by no means on a par with the Premier League.

And lost Lallana, Guly and Lambert from the list of players who could play in AM roles for us.

Hardly surprising when he didn't start for much of last season either. I'd say he's as likely to start matches as Lallana is at the moment.

I haven't read it, yet, but you should be able to self-publish via Kindle, etc anyway.

None, seeing as their home kit was blue, away kit was white, and third kit was maroon (with a pink hoop). Oh, and for those who were watching my "stock levels" thing progress, they still have EVERY size between S-XL in every shirt except the away GK shirt, despite none costing more than £9.59: http://www.sportsdirect.com/SearchResults?DescriptionFilter=Sondico Portsmouth#dcp=1&dppp=24&OrderBy=&Filter=ASUB%5EFootball+Replica+Shirts

3 Sunday matches and a Monday night left to choose from with us NOT being on BT Sport. If it means I can go to Morecambe v Newport on the Saturday too I'm all in favour (though Sunday would be preferred).

The point being, none of the academy kids' parents are likely to see it like that. One of the parents (who I don't know but is a friend of a friend) outright told me on FB how she perceived it, and the thought process was purely of Saints as a feeder club. If that's already the plan for a teenager who's been in the system for years, good luck undoing that thought process if it actually comes to fruition. The other "problem" of course, is that due to Saints' successes with academy products, there are practically no instances of kids being sold by Saints to big clubs where they have failed - the conveyor belt has churned out Walcott, Bale, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Shaw (and at least one other) in the meantime. You'd also be hard pressed to say the "class of '07" types featuring the likes of Surman, Dyer, Cranie, Blackstock, Best, M Mills etc ever went for a big deal in the first place and then failed to have served as a warning. In fact, Saints seem to generally sell players to precisely the right level, probably because only teams at the right level are interested in them to begin with. Looking at Surman's stalled career at Wolves/Norwich is probably the only example, and that one was a sale out of dire necessity. So fundamentally, to the onlooker, "leaving Saints" probably always looks like a good thing.

From a chat I had with one of the youth players' parents a few weeks back, one of the main problems seems to be precisely that the top few clubs do see us as a stepping stone and that's exactly the message the agent was feeding to the parents; "Saints are a (very good) feeder club". If parents are being told their kids should leave when they get in the first team years before they're even in the first team, and they've been planning for a move if they're good enough from years before, that's a very difficult message for the club to control. Not sure I should say which agent, but let's just say it isn't difficult to work out if you think of an academy product that's rapidly stepped out of the academy into a large transfer.

Quite. As a result. I didn't read it.

He wasn't officially allocated a number last year at all, though "coincidentally" we also didn't have a number 11.

Way to ruin a decent joke. Last two lines completely superfluous. As for STILL not being able to spell "Lallana", Jeebus.

Just added Brett Poate and also lost a bunch of information about numerous players I'd tracked down due to not saving something, so balls to it.

Ah, thanks, Alex Pearce of Reading, well he can go...

Thanks to SuperSAINT I'll be adding this lot to the list... Leandre Griffit Kyle Critchell Craig Richards Sean Rudd Feliciano Condessa Josh Dutton-Black Cedric Baseya Adam Pearce Kyle Davies Jack Boyle Tom Dunford Garyn Preen Jordace Holder-Spooner Lloyd Foot Sam Argent Callum McNish Tony Garrod Jack Saville Arran Racine Matt Young

Well, that's everyone that was already on that list, everyone Soccerbase lists as a first team squad member since 2011, and a couple of others off the top of my head - but there are more - I haven't considered the likes of Jamie Hatch or any of the reserves/academy from 2011-2013 who DIDN'T make the first team... so away you go... Just added Jamie White, Jeffrey Imudia and Jack Dovey. And all the releases I can find since 2012, though I haven't looked any of this lot up. Matt Young (Saints released 2014) Joe Curtis (Saints released 2014) Jamal Branker (Saints released 2014) Fraser Colmer (Saints released 2014) Alberto Seidi (Saints released 2013) Gboly Ariyibi (Saints released 2013 - signed with Leeds) Dan Bowman (Saints released 2012) Steve Mowthorpe (Saints released 2012) Conor O’Sullivan (Saints released 2012) And Eddie Odihambo-Anaclet. That's quite enough of that.

Pleased to say a quick Google produced a similar question in 2011, which does a lot of the work for me... done a bit of updating, maybe a few dubious division allocations with promotions/relegations - anyone else? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-31876.html? Premier League: Calum Chambers (Southampton) Nathan Dyer (Swansea) Adam Lallana (Liverpool, FFS) Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal) Luke Shaw (Manchester United, FFS) Andrew Surman (Norwich - still, amazingly) Theo Walcott (Arsenal) James Ward-Prowse (Southampton) (Mike Williamson (Newcastle)) (Kenwyne Jones (Cardiff City)) Harrison Reed (Southampton) Lloyd Isgrove (Southampton) Sam Gallagher (Southampton) Chris Baird (West Bromwich Albion) La Liga Gareth Bale (Real Madrid) Championship Leon Best (Blackburn) Dexter Blackstock (Nottingham F) Simon Gillett (Nottingham F) Oscar Gobern (Huddersfield) Matt Mills (Bolton) Scott McDonald (Millwall) David McGoldrick (Ipswich) Darryl Flahavan (Bournemouth) Harlee Dean (Brentford) League One: Lloyd James (Leyton O) Nile Ranger (Swindon) Ben Reeves (MK Dons) Martin Cranie (Barnsley) Joseph Mills (Oldham) Oliver Lancashire (Rochdale) (Aaron Martin (Yeovil)) Sam Hoskins (Yeovil) League Two: Arron Davies (Exeter) Matt Oakley (Exeter) Matt Paterson (Aldershot) Michael Poke (Skate, lol) Ryan Tafazolli (Mansfield) Danish Superliga Tim Sparv (FC Midtjylland) USA NASL Corby Moore (Indy XI) Scottish League One Andrew McNeil (Aidrieonians) Non-League Jamie White (Bristol Rovers, yes they are non-league) Scott Bevan (Havant & Waterlooville) Jake Thomson (AFC Portchester) Kayne McLaggon (Merthyr Town) Eddie Odhiambo-Anaclet (Brackley Town) Kyle Critchell (Weymouth) CFA2 (French 5th tier) Leandre Griffit (AS Aulnoye-Aymeries) At Saints (no League appearances/Dev Squad/Academy) Cody Cropper Jason McCarthy Jack Stephens Matt Targett Dominic Gape Sam McQueen Omar Rowe Jake Sinclair Jordan Turnbull Will Britt Chris Johns Bevis Mugabi Jake Flannigan Jake Hesketh Ryan Seager Harry Isted Will Wood Kyle Clinton Josh Debayo Colm Deasy Niall Mason Mark Irvine Josh Sims George Mells Armani Little Dan Demkiv Chris Regis Marcus Barnes Other Clubs - no first team appearances Tom Leggett (Aston Villa) Isaac Nehemie (Aston Villa) Andy Robinson (Bolton) Released/No club/Other/Unknown Garry Monk (Swansea) - now manager! Brian Howard (Birmingham - released) Danny Senda (Barnet - retired Feb 2013) Wayne Bridge (Reading - retired July 2014) Ryan Doble (Shrewsbury - released July 2013) Kevin Phillips (Leicester - released - retired July 2014) Jack Dovey (Saints released 2012 - Eastleigh released Feb 2014, now in Australia) Jeffrey Imudia (Aylesbury Town 2013) Matt Young (Saints released 2014) Joe Curtis (Saints released 2014) Jamal Branker (Saints released 2014) Fraser Colmer (Saints released 2014) Alberto Seidi (Saints released 2013) Gboly Ariyibi (Saints released 2013 - signed with Leeds) Dan Bowman (Saints released 2012) Steve Mowthorpe (Saints released 2012) Conor O’Sullivan (Saints released 2012) Craig Richards Sean Rudd (released 2007) Feliciano Condessa Josh Dutton-Black Cedric Baseya Kyle Davies Jack Boyle Tom Dunford Garyn Preen Jordace Holder-Spooner Lloyd Foot Sam Argent Callum McNish Tony Garrod Jack Saville Arran Racine Matt Young Brett Poate

You absolute fecker, you know I can't resist that kind of thing...

I just figured no-one else would, some us are here to serve.

Best Two Teams In England: Saints and Saints Reserves (you).

This couldn't be less interesting if it tried: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28209982

Paging MLG to defend FM, paging MLG to defend FM...

Half a million for the England hat-trick and Euro 2016 Winners clauses.

The difference in possible sell-on value between signing a 27 year old on a three year deal and a 29 year old on a three year deal is massive. Obviously if the contract goes full term you get nothing for them anyway, but the difference in selling a year before the end of the contract is huge at those ages. With the 27 year old you're practically guaranteed there will be takers for them at 29 and the buying club will have the option of shifting them on at 30 if they become much better OR shipping them out to someone for a fee if they fail. With the 29 year old they're 32 when the contract is up and every buying club knows you're almost certainly getting no resale value for a 31 year old. The fact we managed to shift Lambert on for a profit at his age was both an anomaly and an excellent piece of business in isolation.

Just don't.