CB Fry

Yes? Maybe another manager would prepare them better, motivate them better, organise them better? I don't understand how in your eyes Russell Martin is a completely blameless inactive participant in the performance of this football team.

The most important game of our season and some comedian equalises for the opposition.

And you never bought a share, not a single one and we all know it.

Giving it the fucking big one here though, weren't you. Bless.

You've been saying for some time how we can't compete (specifically with clubs like Brentford) because of we can't match their wages because of financial fair play. You've been saying last year's 3-straight-back-down was now going to be the norm every season because of financial fair play restrictions. Turns out they aren't actually paying more than us. So you're saying all that stuff was load of bollocks after all? I'm very open to accepting your apology.

Sorry is there a different wage bill website showing all the Brentford players on £100k a week four year contracts? They're all established Premier League players so they must be on that then. Which players are they?

Both ahead of us in the table, on points totals that Gio and Cato and you would be absolutely creaming yourselves over if Martin had achieved it.

https://www.capology.com/club/brentford/salaries/ But Brentford (solid mid table for multiple seasons) haven't got loads of players on 4 year contracts for £100k a week. I wished I'd looked at this website before now because you've been going on about this PSR bullshit since the summer. We spent loads this summer and we're still shit. There are multiple reasons but one of them isn't some bollocks about financial fair play.

My reading of it is accurate. He's drooling over him in every post he writes. I still think he's a troll on a wind-up anyway, so hats off to him for the bites. I guarantee Russell Martin's career will be more Aidy Boothroyd than Alex Ferguson. Alex Ferguson had already won a European Trophy before Man United not finished 10th with Swansea. An important reminder ahead of Saturday - if we win, then four points from 10 games remains utterly fucking dreadful.

Jesus wept. He's only gone and pressed the "He's just like Alex Ferguson" button. Every single post this guy makes is based on the premise that Russell Martin is the greatest football manager alive today and everything else is simply waiting for the rest of the world to realise his genius. It's absolutely insane. In 18 months time Russell Martin will be just another nothing manager who got one team promoted once, just like Aidy Boothroyd or Chris Wilder or Chris Hughton or Scott Parker or Steve Cooper or whoever you like. Just a ten a penny mediocrity. Nothing special. He's not the second coming of Alex Ferguson FFS.

I formally issue a "Come and Get Him" plea to Jason Wilcox.

He wasn't going to get sacked at skint, relegation threatened Reading in "the first couple of months", was he?

He hasn't been given time and patience. He's been successful at Reading from the start.

Four years on we're now supposed to believe that 20th place, with one point and six goals from nine games is the work of a visionary revolutionising football to an extent that mere mortals like the rest of us could never understand.

Tick that off your predictable response bingo card everyone. 1 point from 9 is shite. Playing Manchester City is a complete irrelevance.

4 points from 10 games is fucking appalling even for a team favourites for relegation. So I won't be interested in the "he's proved you all wrong" open top bus parade from the Russell Martin fangirls if we do manage to beat Everton.

Won't mean much. Relegated teams win some games in a season.

This manager, this style, this "making average players better", this "courage", all of it exists entirely in your imagination. Russell Martin is not "our only route to success". I'm pretty certain you are on a wind-up.

You deserve a special medal for being completely above it all. Although I feel we’ve been here before. It’s like going round and round in circles.

Honestly the "we're bloody awful but that just means we're innovative and we will prove everyone wrong" thing is just the laziest forum trope going. Maybe we are bloody awful. Not everything is the start of a redemption story. The "everyone said Sadio Mane was shit and he proved everyone wrong" myth.

What a load of bollocks. We conceded 63 goals last season with one of the most expensive squads/wage bills. Under a manager that always concedes 60 goals every bloody season at whatever club. We're currently conceding 3 a game no bother every match. There's no dynasty or style to embed because he's a fucking shit manager.

I don't want any of these guys at all. But the Russell Martin fangirls on here need to remember in three years time your guy will on this list of deadbeat yesterday's man manager lists too.

They were only one more pass away from springing the opposition wide open.

Pretty bloody risky to think that the yo yo strategy is in any way sustainable. Not least significant discomfort in the customer base.

We desperately need to keep a lid on things on the first half. If we are five down or something mad then City have a record to break and can go for it. As long as we can get to 80 minutes only three or four down then they probably will ease up and play the game out. They aren't going to kill themselves to break a record but they will given half a chance.