CB Fry

But he's the only reason we are in this mess in the first place.

Take me through Russell Martin's tactical masterplan.

You might want to check the classified results from yesterday.

Better achievement than Martin on promotion with a much tougher task. Unquestionably better record in the Prem than Martin. Fucking sneer away but Russell Martin isn't fit to lace his boots.

Good things happen: all thanks to Russell Martin. Bad things happen: Russell Martin is blameless.

Jesus wept.

What I worry about is the sheer scale of Scar Tissue that Russell Martin has inflicted on this team that the next manager has to sort out.

Give it up on the Vincent Kompany bollocks. Vincent Kompany was a world class international centre back. He has little bit more going on than he relegated Burnley.

My hopes aren't up. Our recruitment was poor and we've pissed away too many early, easier games. Absolutely zero early season momentum. In all probability we're going back down. As I said before, we'll see next spring with ten games to go whether we have a replacement who is a) able to keep us up (unlikely) b) nicely placed to take us into a Championship season or c) not worth persevering with. All depends on whether our Russ replacement is a Nathan Jones or a Gordon Strachan.

Those people must be feeling pretty silly now and no mistake.

Thank God we left him in charge for this game, he's really proving all those doubters wrong. Let's give him the next game and the next game and the next game and the next game and every game forever because he is such a fantastic manager.

Well a step forward at least, the other day you were much more comfortable trashing the players. Let's see, if we win today, a full throated support of the players that deliver that win.

This is his PR team working their bollocks off.

Hahahahahaha OK then. We're on one point no wins and jack shit goals because of our players vs the rest of the league and poor Russell Martin is completely helpless. But we got promoted last season not because of our players vs the rest of that league but because Russell Martin is a Pep Guardiola elite level genius. Right you are then.

Also worth saying that the players loving the manager is not a benefit in its own right. They all loved Steve Wigley. The England team loved Steve McClaren.

Lord knows why anyone uses official club sanctioned interviews as evidence that the players all love the manager. I've yet to see any interview like that with any player at any club in the world say anything different. What do you think Tyler Dibling is going to say?

I read something which says that the problem is the leaking and information from ministers has dried up, so all the lobby journalists have got an arse on about it because no one is feeding them info any more. Hence Beth Rigby who previously I thought was pretty good is being a complete twat re Taylor Swift. Who from what I have seem had blue light support in Cardiff and Edinburgh anyway. As do football teams and visiting ambassadors etc etc etc all the time.

Honestly I would be amazed. He turned down Ajax not long ago.

20 odd and 30 odd games in some cases. How generous of you. Russell Martin's track record is dribbling Swansea into 15th and 10th before achieving promotion with us primarily because he had significantly better players than all the other teams, ie the reverse but really the same reason you're letting him off in this league. I'm struggling to see anything to suggest that he is so much better as a manager than Cameron Archer is as an attacker.

Blimey, I was looking to get tix for that. If i cant even get a Wolves ticket basically my Plus membership is worthless. Except maybe if we get to an FA Cup semi or LC final.

"Football club at foot of Premier League changes manager" doesn't "hold up in real life"? I think it has happened before once or twice. All I am saying at the point of ten-games-to-go is we have a chance then to decide then what we might need for our Championship season then. I'd rather we got there having tried something rather than let this guy doom us before Christmas. It's great you are happy trashing all the players but maybe, just maybe, Russell Martin is a bit sh*t as well?

You seem to be obsessed with the 19 game thing when really that is just a humorous reference to the various scenarios that can play out. One of the scenarios I outline involve us staying up with the new guy but you can only equate new manager with failure. Hey let's stick with the guy on one entire point.

If Russell Martin can bin off most of the team that got us promoted are we not allowed to hold him to the same standards. His first seven games we've got one point scored fuck all and not really deserved any more. But yeah let's just give him the season because any replacement will be worse. Sure.

You seem to be labouring under the assumption that Russell Martin was appointed on August 1st. We've seen a whole season of him so we know his shortcomings - last season he lost all four matches against our fellow promoted teams, for example. Time for bye bye. I think we should welcome our new manager and get behind him. After all remember how Alex Ferguson started and he proved everyone wrong. The new guy deserves our backing from the start because we all want to stay up. COYS

I mean you can push for your "each manager gets eight games" strategy but I'm worried that youngsters like Tyler won't know their A from their E. So....Manager 2 gets up until December and if he ain't no good then BAM - GOODBYE and new man in for the Christmas fixtures. Then he would make it to maybe the FA Cup fourth round in Feb before the potential chop. I'm not super sure, i think its insane but if you believe in it, I'll back you.