CB Fry

We've handed the story to the Talksport/Sky/Tabloid pundit army on a plate (....what did Southampton expect if 8th isnt good enough, bet they regret that now etc etc etc). Urgh.

Surely a replacement top class defender would cone from the same place we recruited VVD, Lovren, Fonte, Toby. Why, when we had an excellent record in signing top class defenders, is it suddenly impossible or unreasonable to expect us to sign a top class defender or two? We are allowed to buy a dud - Hoedt fair enough - but we should have replaced Fonte with soneone and lyin' Les also said that Hoedt was not VVD's replacement. It's the fact we didn't even try and get replacements.

So even the optimists have got us getting to 35 points which is clearly not going to be enough. Huddersfield have got that now and even they'll scrape a point from their horrible run-in. It's going to be one of those boring seasons where the title and the relegation places are settled with plenty of games to spare. At least the three going down are similarly "established" Premier League clubs so we're not alone.

Luckily Leicester haven't got much up front so we should be fine.

Fenway are not owners that are going to put money in and expect nothing back. They're not and you know it. And neither are the Glazers which you also know but you "don't care" because it doesn't fit your point. Because you're wrong of course. Most owners try and run their clubs within their means rather than pour money in and expect nothing back. That's what "Most owners" do. Most debt write offs involve converting loans into equity, ie they still own the club (or more of the club). That's generally how it works.

She's certainly implicated in that. One of the most avoidable relegations in the last decade.

Most owners put their own money into clubs and expect nothing back? Most owners? Fenway Sports is a little old charity is it? Glazers did it from the kindness of their hearts? Even Chelsea are running a tight ship these days. And I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay then. Just that one sentence sums up the utter selfish "but why don't they spend spend spend spend because I want them to" attitude of the idiot football fan. Put it this way - the Matt Le Tissier consortium would not have unlocked the investment in all the things I've talked about. And nice you toss off "a few top eight finishes" like it's nothing for massive old Southampton. Well, I'm forty, don't remember the Lawrie years so that's as good as it has ever got in my Saints life. But yeah, she's greedy. She's the greedy one.

That money wouldn't have come in without her there. She facilitated the investment. More than any other individual in the history of the club. And it went on infrastructure and players and youth development and the Training Ground and promotion and 8th, 7th, 6th, 8th, a cup final and two European campaigns. But hey, she's greedy and horrible and everything. And the fans still moaned and giped and complained and whinged. The fans aren't greedy ungrateful pri cks though. Let's see what we get next now the horrible person is going.

Just remind me of an individual who has been responsible for putting more in than she has. Happy to wait.

You're correct that would definitely keep us up.

I agree - I would have preferred her to sell to someone else because this guy looked dodgy from the start. But probably also the case that there weren't loads of options. A premier league club, especially one like ours with essentially zero headroom to really grow is not much of a catch. We're not going to become a global mega brand so is really not a great investment opportunity (see comment earlier about "how do you make a small fortune in football...?"). The chance of us finding someone who just wanted to spend spend with no actual return - not likely. We had no right to expect the Leibherr family to be there forever and she just wanted out. She's allowed to. I find it very unlikely that I'll ever defend the Gao family like I would defend the Leibherr family.

7th, 6th, 8th, a cup final and two European campaigns suggests you haven't got a clue. Why shouldn't they try and balance the books? Funny how fan's money is "hard earned" and oh-so-precious but the owner should just pi ss money away and write it all off just to satisfy the demands of a few dins from Bitterne and Shirley because they just want it spent spent spent spent. Guess what - it don't work like that. Well she's on her way out so everything should be just dandy from now on.

Pardew bought Fonte with Leibherr money (not fan's hard earned cash as you seem to think) and Katharina was there after Markus's death and was there when we hit the highest heights we have hit for thirty odd years and one of the most sustained periods of top flight success we've ever had. I know that hurts you so bad but it's true. It's wonderfully, deliciously true. Thank you Katharina, thank you. I said we'd miss her when she went and we will but the dinlows all thought someone else was coming in to spend spend spend spend us to the Champions League. Guess what, the luck run out and maybe "fat Kat" wasn't so bad after all. If she made a profit from selling us then she's allowed to do that. And why should anyone put money in - we're going to be sustained by the fans hard earned cash right? That's what you want. Good luck with it.

You realise the old man was dead while we were still in League One, right? You don't know what has been "taken out", you're just chatting sh it.

I'm just defending the idea that Katharina owes any fans anything that's all. Not defending Reed or Ralph. Sorry to disappoint you.

They were rich before. They spent money to get us in the Premier League in the first place. They are not obliged to keep spending and spending because you want them to. Match day income is a small proportion of income. Club didn't get where it is because of fans money, it got through speculation funded by a billionaire. If you don't want to buy tickets, don't. If we go down and Gao sods off then we can go back to being entirely funded by fans hard-earned cash. We'll see how long you can stomach that.

No I don't. You're the one claiming it was your hard earned money. It wasn't your hard earned money sweetheart.

I care about Saints sunshine. What I don't do is act like a whining blubbering man-baby. Show a bit if gratitude at the good fortune we had to have the Leibherr money and what that did and has done for for us. Markus's daughter owes you nothing. And being that you are an excellent example of the self-entitled grizzling toddler football fan I don't blame her for a second on trying to get the hell out of it. While you pompously chat sh it about how the city has been damaged, just think about cities like Sheffield and Derby and Bristol and Leeds and Sunderland and Coventry and Nottingham that just about manage to get up in the morning with no Premier League football cub. Our brilliant city will also survive but not with the snivelling wet blankets like you representing it. Try manning the fu ck up.

If you think your hard earned money signed Billy Sharpe or Fonte, or your hard earned money was spunked on the Training Ground then crack on. If we were relying on just everyone's hard earned money from 2009 then we might well still be in League One.

Katharina Leibherr can do what the fu ck she likes and doesn't owe you anything.

Jamie Vardy rubbing his hands together in anticipation of Thursday night.

If you concede three goals in every game you play, you ain't staying up.

We've conceded three in all three Hughes games right? In fact, four games in a row. Fuc k me.

Palace and Huddersfield, off you go lads.

Sickening.