CB Fry

Not answering the question then.

Ask the people who decided rape and touching her fanny are not the same.

Why are you talking about Burnley fans now, not Liverpool or Man City fans? You not going to answer my question on why those clubs haven't demanded an end to this "patently unjust" system? Because it's patently unjust isn't it? Isn't it?

Rape and "touching her fanny" is the same is it? Funny, thought there were laws that defined things. Lines can be, and are, drawn. All the time, on everything. Sad you can't get that.

Let's stop shall we, whatever I say you'll pick holes in it, make out its some huge grey area so let's not bother at all and fingers crossed let's have Saints squad jam packed with rapists. If I'd have said "all sexual assault" you'd have just come out with a "what if" from the extreme end of that scale. There would be a line that can be drawn. life is full of ambiguity. Sorry about that.

We had a blank canvas of a ground back in 2001, the singers decided they wanted to be next to the away fans, whose position was fixed. The architects gave us a four sided ground. Grounds everywhere are getting quieter. I actually think our best bet of preserving the atmosphere is to keep the singers from both sides together. Relocating the Northam Saints singers to, say, the Chapel I don't think would improve the atmosphere. But as someone who goes to more aways than homes it's not something I will claim expertise on. The 10% rule I will.

Steve Grant on here has explained how the Northam end as we know it came about, and it was nothing to do with Lowe. The 10%/3,000 rule is not "arbitrary". It's perfectly fair, and suits our needs perfectly. Tickets for OT still on general sale, not suggesting a demand for 7 or 8 thousand of them.

This is a tangent: Hope that's clear.

You could ask the victims of Luke McCormack. I'm sure they'll thoroughly enjoy your exploration of this obviously vague grey area.

You got a hiding in that thread for deciding that the anodyne phrase "our thoughts and prayers are with" was tantamount to religious fundamentalism and decided to start comparing the use of that phrase to the actions of religious nut parents who refuse life saving treatment on religious grounds. It was easily one of the most ridiculous trains of thought ever seen on this forum, and I don't blame you for running away from it. You've been on this forum long enough for people to know you are autistic and can't process the world in a recognised way, so maybe we should all cut you a little slack. Unfortunately your Clark Carlisle stuff was just too ludicrous to ignore.

Hypo - it's just been on the BBC 10 O'Clock News, and frankly there is no other way to interpret what he said. What a di ck.

The phrase "in the same breath" springs to mind. Mentioning that in the same interview is dropping an astonishing bol lock.

500 words. Bosh. Will this do?

As it stands they haven't got much football to show next season, a bit of Euro quals and then the tournament in Summer 2016. Even if they win the highlights package for the Prem presumably that's from next year not next season (I think). Imagine Lee Dixon will be the man from now on.

That desperate to see Cambridge v Luton, huh? Bad times.

I think a typo - he meant she wasn't dragged kicking and screaming.

Don't blame you. We're going round in circles.

We do need someone saying this every 50 posts. Thanks for being there.

I think other people have addressed this anyway. Rape (and serious sexual assault) is a clear one for me, and if the authorities find a way of enshrining that thinking into guidelines all clubs in the two leagues sign up to, then great. You can blather on about speeding tickets if you want, but I am quite happy to deal specifically with sexual violence as I have said numerous times on the thread.

So is the "main issue" the fact we rarely ever even sell 3,000 away tickets, let alone 6, 7 or 8 thousand? Or is the "main issue" that there is a simple reason why this "patently unjust" situation is allowed to carry on. A very simple reason. Ask yourself why Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City haven't challenged the "patently unjust" 10% rule and demanded their "fair" 8,000 seats at Old Trafford. Have an ickle tiny little think about why they haven't. It shouldn't take long what with you being jolly clever and all. Answer the question, then maybe you can shut up about this utter horsesh it you are coming out with.

Which was what? The role model thing? I answered that - it doesn't matter if no other industry does it for that reason, I think it should apply to professional league football.

That's one hell of a strawman right there. Well done on that.

You don't think professional football should set an example, I do.

Stop pretending that the experiences and governance of Manchester City is identical to the Dog and Duck. The Leagues with the PFA and the FA could write guidelines they sign up to. Not rocket science.

There are already professions that you can't go back to if you've been convicted of rape, so let's not pretend this is some hare-brained idea I have just made up. People convicted of rape serve time in jail and then have to rebuild their lives in society. Just as a doctor can't stroll back into his old surgery, they need to find a new life someplace else. It's kinda a way to make raping people a less attractive option, you know? Consequences of one's actions. its weird people just think it finishes at the prison gate and anyone just picks up an exact Xerox of their life before they went in. That right is never there for the victims, is it? Anyway, don't worry, he's getting his contract so his little life won't be "completely destroyed" because he can't be a pro footballer anymore. So happy days all round, the rapist wins.