CB Fry

RDM did well. He won the Champions League with a team well used to winning trophies and getting to the Champions League final. I'm not seeing much wrong with it. But he didn't build that team. He did well but doesn't convince me that he is some genius manager. Not sure he'd do any better at Saints than Nige or this current bloke. I'll assume you don't see any negatives in Avram Grant who was a penalty or two away from the same trophy?

Chelsea get through so many managers it is fair to assume that the core of that squad are more than capable of managing themselves. Di Matteo did not build a CL finalist team, just like Uncle Avram didn't.

Yes, they were different. But both had significant challenges. You seem to imply earlier that Lowe seemed to have thing easier because we were "established". I disagree with that, demonstrated by the immediate preceding two seasons we only scraped survival. Charging through L1 on the back of a Billionaire is no more difficult.

We were established relegation stragglers in a tiny stadium when Lowe took over. Some might say what Cortese has achieved has been far easier than what Lowe achieved (up to the end of the Sturrock season). And Cortese hasn't finished his tenure yet. Who says we won't ever go down under him?

There are loads of pros from Lowe's time at the club. Clearly some people never want to admit to any of them. Life's too short to bother detailing it as it won't change your opinion. Plenty of clubs habe been run far, far worse than Saints were in his time.

Correct. 60% is excellent. Lets hope the club stick with that.

No it doesn't. Far harder to actually build a team than take an already established one over. Say Fergie was hospitalised and out of action from Christmas but they win the league anyway - would that make Mike Phelan a wonder manager? Not really.

Forren is 25, Mayuka 23 this year. Not exactly callow, fresh faced kids. Not writing them off but they should be challenging for first team spots, Forren especially.

Right. You do it. Figure of speech. Anyone else does it. "Reading things that aren't there". "My beloved QPR" Genius. Another figure of speech I guess. Do point out anywhere, at any point, ever, me saying anything remotely positive about QPR and how they go about things. Take your time. Reading things that aren't there.

Who are these "many people" suggesting we follow the QPR model, as you suggest only a couple of posts up, then? Must be easy to name and quote them as heaven forbid you would "read whatever you want...even if it is not there". So do let us know.

Most of their new players are on massive four or five year contracts. But yes. There is only two ways to manage player recruitment. Our way, or QPR's way. That's it. Well done.

When we he ever learn? The Echo and this so-called "Legend" continue their anti Saints agenda. Not one word about how brilliant Cortese has been for the club in this. Not one word. This can only harm the club. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/10271597.Le_Tiss__Saints_can_emulate_class_of__94/?ref=twt

No wonder all the good posters don't post on here any more.

If we go to Norwich, set up like QPR and win I guarantee you won't be dissapointed, and I guarantee you wouldn't call it a lucky win. You would probably call it a tactical masterclass from our genius manager.

Indeed. In fact they've been nowhere near relegation all season. Pretty obvious they weren't going down weeks and weeks ago. Well obvious to me. I can't speak for the rest of the spanners on here.

They're above us in the table because their form is better than ours.

At the end of the day the form table doesn't matter a damn. Only one statistic matters on the day. Shots on goal.

With the information available at that time, that was the only reasonable prediction anyone could have made. The fact that we are not currently tenth does not mean said prediction was wrong. On the contrary it was the only correct prediction. Everyone else was, and still is, wrong. And have sad lives or something.

32 points from 28 games.

The old eleven game form guide. It's everywhere these days, isn't it?

So your "reasonable" prediction is based on the assumption that Saints would go on a Wigan style mega run winning pretty much every game until the end of the season. Right. Now I get it. And here's silly old me suggesting you were being fanciful. Well, don't I look the chump.

None of it would have happened. We wouldn't have got liquidated, not least because of the flipping brand new stadium which would have been an absolute nightmare to turn into anything other than a football stadium. Richard Chorley would have handcuffed himself to railings for a month for a start. But in your mental little fantasy world you have the city council cheering a the wrecking balls down Brittannia Way. The Don Valley stadium really has no bearing on what may have happened to a top level brand new football stadium. Saints were in administration for a whole three months and you think we were on the brink of being wound up. We would have found a way, just like Luton and Coventry and Bradford and Swansea and every other football club in Britain who eventually come out of administration and then immediately start saying to the press and anyone who will listen how they were 24 hours/minutes/seconds away from being closed for good. You are a fantasist who thinks Pompey have "got away with it", and the idea that we were going to be liquidated is also complete fantasy. Anyway, this is a Pompey takeover thread and you are really not worth arguing with. Tell us how Pompey have got away with it again, always good for a giggle.

Seven wins out of nine was great. Champions League form no less. Got Wigan to tent..th..oh, hang on. Fifteenth. Great example. Well done.

There were lots of sensible reasons why we wouldn't win both games. Three wins in a row for a team in a relegation scrap is pretty rare and for you to glibly expect it is just naive. We've seen plenty of "sensible reasons" why we aint tenth played out over the last two games.

So reasonable it has been abandoned after two measly games.