CB Fry

It is completely bizarre. If you ignore the ten point deduction you are left with the points we have gained in the games we've played, for real. Just like all the other teams. 32 points. We'd have 32 points if the minus ten wasn't in place. Simple. This idea of "adding the deduction in gradually" is nonsense. This is a football league table, we're not making a souffle. And, one last point, the points deduction don't "actually take effect" at the end of the season. They "took effect" the minute we got our golden share back in the summer. That's why we had a sodding great -10 figure next to us in the league before we'd kicked a ball. Christ.

No-one turns up at SMS primarily because they don't like Portsmouth. For almost our entire time in the top flight Pompey were an irrelevence to us, and now, unfortunately, the opposite is the case. Both of us have had success and failure irrespective of the other. If they go out of existance (they won't) it won't make any difference to us.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8394092.stm Don't panic everyone, they've got a loan. Does anyone know whether they have taken out any other loans before this?

I think the FA ran an initiative a couple of seasons ago where x number of selected games in some round were £10 a ticket rather than the official minimum rate. So they might do that again.

LOL.

Actually, blame the council. Anyone on the council with a bit of foresight would know that by 2018 SFC would still exist and SMS would still exist. Admin was always going to be a short term bit of turbulence. They could have ploughed on and bid regardless. And a WC bid could have actually sped the process of our takeover up a little, as it instantly makes the ground a tiny bit more valuable in the future. It's the council wot didn't do it, administration was not completely irrelevent, but is being as an excuse for the council bottling it.

Anyone remember the good old days when Pompey was just Gaydamak's rich man's toy and he would never be so bothered about such vulgar things like getting his money back or a return on investment? He was just chucking money at his beloved Pompey for his own amusement and for his love of the literally hundreds of world's-best-fans Pompey have. Pretty sure if you scroll back on this very thread Mr Ho makes such claims. But I can't be bothered.

Those of us that are really pernickety would say that persnickety is a dreadful Americanism. If you are American, you are excused.

LOLtastic. How could one post be so wrong.

There's only one thing funnier than none of the players being paid, and that's "a majority" of the players not being paid. That's going to be fantastic for team spirit come Saturday.

I'm starting to worry their signing of Eugen Bopp may be in the balance.

Go on, get all upset about "the list" again. It's quite funny.

Yeah, I know. No-one explaining to the divs about how the Torquay game was a draw with the result decided on penalties gives a toss about the list you're squinneying about.

From my experience negativity is often confused for realism on this forum, in the manner of a sulky teenager who equates walking around in a long coat with a face like a smacked arse with intellectualism. Remember the "realists" on this forum were confidently predicting how we would scrape into fifth from bottom this season and sneering at anyone expecting better. Well, we'll see how real the "realists" were being come May, won't we.

I'm struggling to find these people saying we didn't win on penalties that you seem to be talking to.

What list?

No sh*t. We drew the match though.

Of course not. But the final score on the T-Shirts will be 0-0, 2-1, 2-0. Even if we win the world cup within six months no-one in England will remember the penalty score (5-3, or 4-2 or whatever) but everyone will remember the full time score, and the fact that the match was a draw. Actually, yes it is. Match is drawn and then the tie is decided by whatever method has been decided by the competition organisers. It's also why there are no penalty shootouts in the league. LOL at you.

Of course you would say in the pub "we won on penalties". But then saying "we won on penalties" is itself saying "we drew the match" because one thing leads to another. And quite often in the pub people might say "we got through on penalties" but no-one ever says "we got through 2-1", they'd say "we won two-one". Like it or not the word "won" is used less when penalties are involved. And, goals scored in Penalty shootouts don't count to season or career goals tallies. Because they don't take place in the match officially, just in the device used to settle a tie. It's also why the final score wasn't 7-3 or whatever. It was 2-2, then the penalty tally. With Torquay, we drew the match, we won the tie. Pretty simple and people picking Pancake up on that are a tiny bit dim I'm afraid.

If we maintain this form for the rest of the season we will make the play offs. And if we make the play-offs, I think we will be promoted because god lord we'd be the number one form team in Britain. It is possible, but of course not easy.

Me neither, but they contribute to this forum. Just before we played them there were fans going apoplectic about the very idea anyone dared say Saints were a bigger club than Yeovil - it was terribly "arrogant" to think so, apparently. And as someone has already linked to on this thread, there are still people who think fifth from bottom would be some kind of triumph. And yes, of course I overstate for effect on this forum - that's the point, to generate a bit of debate, but the kernal of truth is there. In the main, the forum contributors who overstate how awful we are and how we can only dream of finishing eighteenth as seen as oh-so-wise sages when anyone saying we can and should finish top ten bare-minimum are cast as "unrealistic" lunatics. It is madness and we will see who the real "realists" are come May. I'll wage it won't be the "positive" relegation flirters.

Quite right TDD. Fan that thinks we should be aiming to finish in the play-offs because we have the squad capable of doing so = characterised as a "negative moaner". Fan that drones on about how we should only aim to finish just above the relegation places, we shouldn't expect any better than that and we are not a bigger club than Yeovil = positive, realistic fan. You couldn't make it up. I think this must be the only football forum where making out your team are much more rubbish than they are and aiming pathetically low is seen as the "positive/realistic" viewpoint. Now we are clear of the relegation zone, do all those super positive/realistic fans now think we are going to hover around 19th for the rest of the season? Do you all think Pardew is that useless?

Try six months ago, when Lallana did want to leave.

Not online. They haven't for a few seasons now. If you want Radio commentary you have to pay for saints player. Which currently doesn't seem to be working.

Whatever happened to the "Morgan is actually an Arsenal player who is only really on loan to us and will be off to the Emirates when Wenger clicks his fingers" story? That was one of my favourite solid gold rumours.