CB Fry

Not sure what you are getting at here, but I wasn't having a go at Pearson, or Ferguson, just the "Peter Principle" as Window Cleaner nicely put it further up the thread: managers that are successful right now have percieved glittering careers ahead of them, as Phil Parkinson and Alan Curbishley (and Alan Pardew, Iain Dowie etc etc) once had. What we don't (and they don't) know is the level at which they peak. Its not a slight on Pearson or Ferguson to say they might never do any better. It's just what can happen. This time last year Paul Ince was on a one man mission to managerial greatness. Now, he isn't. He might be back or he might never ever beat what he achieved in L2. And anyway Ferguson hasn't "served his apprenticeship" any more than Pearson has, as Ferguson has been a manager for a whole season and a half.

Indeed, you don't need too tell me. Darren Ferguson and Nigel Pearson have stock going through the roof but it is just as likely that this is the most they ever achieve in their career. Curbishley and Allardyce for England anyone? Keane and Hughes fighting it out for the United job? Paul Ince for every single job going? Not so long ago, in fact most of those were this time last year.

Phil Parkinson is an interesting choice for a "well what were they thinking" remark. Wasn't so long ago he lead a team to promotion from League One, and a manager that has just done that is currently being touted about on here as the best thing since sliced bread toasted. So Phil Parkinson has achieved just as much as Pearson and I doubt a Pearson appointment anywhere would be seen as a "well what where they thinking" moment. There's very few people on here that think Pearson would be anything other than a success in any club anywhere. Well, that was Phil Parkinson a couple of years ago. As for Bryan Gunn, I agree with you, but you can't move for people on here screaming for the appointment of Chris Marsden or Francis Benali. No-one ever learns. I think all the three of us shows that relegation from the prem is a bugger to get over sometimes, as SWFC, Forest, Leeds and Leicester have also shown. I think we could do with Leeds winning the play offs BTW, get them out of the way for next season.

Actually, no they haven't, which is why all your posts are a complete joke. Ranting and raving about dopy conspiracies in your own head does not useful insight make. ......:cool:..................:cool:......................LOWE!!!!!........................OUT!!!!!!..................:cool:.................:cool:...........HE...........RELEGATED........US......ON.......................PURPOSE...........BECAUSE.........HE ............!!!!........ONLY WANTS......TO.........MAKE........MONEY..................AND........US...........BEING...................RELEGATED........:cool:..........WILL.............MAKE...............LOWE!!!!!..........LOADS.............AND............LOADS............OF...........MONEY............OR................SOMETHING....................HANG ON..........ERRR................UM.......LOWE!!!!..........OUT........!!!!...:cool:

I think this is about right - often a move does a player good - at Derby he suddenly had to establish himself at a new club a new city etc. I'm not sure a Matt Oakley signing on for another two years at home-sweet-home Saints would have been the same Matt Oakley that went to Derby. As Um says above, it is more than likely just one of those things. Lowe obviously made some catastrophic decisions, but I don't see this as being one of them - esp when you think that equally crock-a-delic Idiakez was given longer term contract than Oakley was offered, suggesting that it wasn't a case of what could be afforded, more what the manager wanted at the time: let's assume II was higher priority than Oakley, rightly or wrongly. (Wrongly!). I think some people need to brace themselves to the fact that the next regime will make some decisions that you don't agree with too. Not everything can be traced back to "Rupert Lowe wants to destroy us on purpose".

Oh shut up you silly old woman. Enough bloody conspiracy already. I think in your heart of hearts you really do want Lowe back - after all what you do with your full stop key if he never comes back?

Not a great passer, runs around with no significant end product, nothing like a prolific goalscorer for an AM. Sorry, can't see it. Half a million quid and a transfer to, say, Bristol City or Preston I could see. Premier League, not next season and I think not ever.

We're not going to court. We're in the wrong, we've cheated the system. There isn't any judge in the land who is going to look at us and say that SLH is a completely different entitity to SFC.

This cuts to the heart of the problem. We haven't "suffered" that much. Have a look at the long view, have a look at season after season after season in the top flight. Yep, five years of misery, but we did even get a play off season in that time as well. But plenty of other clubs our size have suffered as much as we have. Yep, our current plight is a tragedy, but its fallen other clubs and we've had higher highs in the last twenty years than almost every other professional club in the country. That said, this is nothing that makes us different - all clubs fans think they are more hard done by than any other.

As I said, if we were that skint then our takeover would just happen quicker. We are not Weymouth.

Good. The club will be taken over by a group of businessmen, not fans. And the Trust, SISA, Alan Whitehead, Chorley, Illingsworth and your group will have nothing whatsoever to do with it. Thank the lord. Well done on all you've done but really it has just been a glorified hobby. Why not let the administrator get on with it? From what I can see he is doing a bloody good job.

What a load of rubbish. If we were that skint it just would have hurried along an eleventh hour takeover that will happen soon enough anyway. If the likes of Notts County and Mansfield Town and all the rest can get teams out to play football matches, pretty sure we can. Don't believe the hype.

I must say, your "humourous thread" is a right barrel of laughs. Did anyone get the "joke" in your hilarious original "comedy" post? Wakka Wakka.

What is "clearly wrong" about it? SLH is entirely SFC. And the bits that aren't SFC are not the bits that would drag SLH into administration. SLH = SFC. It was a little scam we tried to pull, it failed, because it was a pathetic scam that was never going to work.

Well, we broke the rules, so its irrelevent whether it the board was made up with three Norwich fans, two Forest fans and John Pompey FC Westwood. We broke the rules.

+1.

It doesn't matter what the rules say. We've got ten points deducted and we won't win an appeal. We don't actually have a legal right to be part of the Football League you know. They could kick us out - it's a private members club and the members make the rules as they go along. And, as others have said, they could just punish us more for wasting their time with pointless appealling. At the end of the day we had a dopey little ruse which was never ever going to work, we got two weeks grace while the League mooched about "investigating", and then we got the punishment we had coming to us. We deserve ten points deduction according to the rules we helped put into place and we got it.

He'll do a job for a CCC club next season. Can't quite see him in the Prem, but I could see him at a West Brom or a non-promoted Derby, Reading or Cardiff. Or, dare I say it, Leicester City.

I think those two are a bit ambitious, but there are names that I think aren't hat ambitious who I would think could get us into the play offs even with ten points (not easily, but possibly): Lawrie Sanchez, Ian Holloway, Steve Cotterill (probably my first choice), Mark Robins, Paul Tisdale, Martin Allen. Remember, we're a big club in L1 and can you see any of those names getting jobs much better than we can offer? Depending on the ambition and pockets of the new owners (who knows they could be loaded) then your Boothroyds, Jewells and Inces could step forward, maybe. It's a long shot on a par with the Keegan at Fulham story. But those others above, none of them would be first choice for getting us in the Prem, or even play offs in CCC, but from where we are next season, I'd take any of them. Wotte can go. Let's start again. Again.

He was a right old Jack Walker wasn't he? You response to people saying that Crouch came across as a wally last night is as rambling as one of Leon's radio interviews. What has telling us to "wake up and smell the League one coffee" got to do with anything? Leon came over as a complete arse yesterday and his contribution to the Ted Bates statue, or Lowe's complete demolition of our football club haven't really got anything to do with it. He made himself and the club look utterly foolish. Christ.

I'm the self important one? "I suspect Luton and Doncaster out of sheer spite" Oh, my aching sides. Stop it you're killing us. You couldn't pull a humourous thread out of you bottom.

It doesn't really matter what happened at some pointless talking shop anyway. We'll be taken over by one or a number of businessmen and none of these uberfan clowns will be anywhere near the football club. please god, no fan ownership ever, ever, ever.

I fixed it for you.

On another thread..... You really are a t w a t, Alpine. My prediction is you will stop dwelling on this in about 2035.

Not really. Leon telling the nation we tried to cheat the system didn't require much "twisting".