CB Fry

Who is the person that is going to show the interest? We don't have anyone around in management (coaching or admin/chief exec) that is likely to be anywhere near the club come August. We barely have anyone in place for the job in hand now. Wotte can't be seen to be preparing for next season, not least whatever he does will look wrong - either presuming success or failure and presuming he'll have a job either way. And he'd get slated for "not concentrating on the current situation". Brace yourself for a scramble around just like the last five seasons. Sorry.

That view may not be shared by Matt Le Tissier, Michael Owen, Paul Gascoigne, David Beckham, James Beattie, at least half the Saints squad at the time, most of the Spurs squad, his old boss as a player and as a manager David Pleat, the entire Wolves squad. Paul Ince is the only player who raves about him. If he was that good explain the utter failure at Spurs, the embarrassment of Wolves - jacuzzis of cash and couldn't even scrape the play offs which even Burley could do - and explain the only person now prepared to give him a job is....Glenn Hoddle. Les Reed was highly rated as a coach by the FA, too.

Err - I was adding to what you said, which is why I said, "can I just add to that". I wasn't disagreeing with you.

Retard. It wasn't a vocal few it was majority of the fan base. And Hoddle would have relegated us just one season earlier than ****flaps did. Hoddle failed, failed, failed, failed at every club or country he's been at except Swindon where he had Glenn Hoddle the player to pick and the five minutes he was at Saints with Dave Jones squad. He's a complete failure and hated by almost every player he's every worked with. Take your posters down you deluded obsessive tool.

You're off your head. We deserve to go down, we've been awful all season. League football usually delivers justice*, and justice for our performances this season is for us to finish second bottom. Even the people saying we only need to stay two points adrift of Forest to have a chance are equally deluded - there are two relegation spots, meaning yeah we could beat Forest and finish above them....third from bottom. It's highly likely the last day scenario will be for us "to beat Forest and and and and and". It aint happening. Forest and Norwich have shown some momentum and one of them will stay up and deserve to. Barnsley have enough points in the bag and a game in hand to easily finish above us - they haven't been bottom three pretty much all season so can't see them starting now - remember the great Plymouth collapse everyone predicted? 4-0 home win. Safe. Oh. Barnsley need to win one out of four. We are relegated and yesterday, although welcome was the dead cat bounce. Oh, and one more thing - if you switched our fixtures around with Barnsley's you'd be saying we'd walk it - away to Coventry and Plymouth: mediocre teams with zilch to play for and away to Reading who are under massive pressure. Home to Wolves, yep, a toughy. Plus that game in hand. We're down, son.

How does Leicester's league position mean that Widdrington would be a success? Tommy Widdrington is not an "upcoming star" of anything. I'm not swallowing this anyway - this campaign is being run by the comedians on this forum, who generally make me laugh on here, so I know its all just a wind up anyway.

Can also add to this that rememberance sunday stopped being about WW1 a long, long time ago. It's about remembering and thanking all servicemen who died in service for this country and others in all conflicts. Ever. For anyone to describe it as "just" remembering the first world war that doesn't mean anything to anyone is crass in the extreme.

What is it with the affinity/passion for the club guff? When does it work - which clubs have really suceeded with a manager with passion for the club/history/affinity etc etc? You'll all trot out Keegan, and then what? Funny how all the successful clubs in this division don't have a manager with any affinity to their club, and all the successful clubs in this top division don't either. And two of our most successful managers had no affinity to us either - Lawrie and WGS weren't exactly destined to manage Saints were they? Call me crazy bonkers, but how about just appointing a good manager?

Even if it is only temporary i think just being out of it for one day would be a massive, massive lift and could see some real believe surge through the squad. The comeback starts tomorrow!

I want us to be taken over by a load of super dooper fans who have chopped up their furniture for firewood and sold it on and did a charity cake day and a bring and buy sale and a pub quiz and a tin with all our holiday change in and guess the name of the teddy and my mate knows someone who owns a scaffolding company and he's pledged two grand and I'm running the London marathon for my mum but she'll probably last a year so all the money can go to the club instead and we've raised nearly fifty odd grand and everything and we don't really have the faintest idea what we are going to do next.

Hang on, where have I even talked about owning the ground/owning the club? You're just making arguments up now Yes, getting the ground debt off our hands which is what admin is going to go a long way to achieving is a good thing. But you seem to be labouring under the aprehension that it is only the super dooper fans groups that have worked this out. It isn't the fans groups that are going to strike a deal with Aviva that involves them cutting and running. It will be a business group with a bit of dough, intent and savvy behind them. If we go down the council-bailing-us-out and them owning the ground it will be a business group that instigates it, not the charity matchers shaking their tins and selling charity cakes at half time. As I said, I grasp the bigger picture while you drone on about charity bloody concerts. When Derry has got his £700,000 in the bank, let me know. And anyway, that's what I am calling obscene. Seeing young people saying they have scraped together a grand of savings and are now prepared to chuck it away on football debt is obscene, completely obscene and I don't think it should be being encouraged. That's my bigger picture son. Get behind the team, pack the ground, but people feeling they have to blow their savings in the middle of the biggest recession since the seventies is obscene. Let a consortium with access to credit do that, not average people on average wages. Let business take on business debt. And yes, I'm a child with pocket money who goes to the pictures before bedtime....but also manage to remember Jossy's Giants which was on TV last in about 1986. Lemon. "Some of us have a club to save". Have you really: the big picture is this process is just serving people's self satisfaction - you're puffing yourself up by the day, Mr Saviour. Come back to me in a month and lets see who has really saved the club.

My user name used to be CB Fry and Lawrie. Until I got fed up with puns and everyone else couldn't get it right when they used it. But it is a good title of this thread. Hats off. And I also like Torres gag about Lawrie and his photo. You can almost see him going in to SMS with it tucked under his arm.

Saint Richmond in utterly clueless post shocker.

Cheers - harsh but funny is what I'm here for! Look, I don't need the "124 years of history" routine, I've got a far better grasp of the bigger picture than you have. Being fan owned is not the way forward and I hope all these groups don't succeed, because I want the club to push forward not backwards as it would. You might think the fan base can raise £24m on the strength of people on a forum blythly promising a grand here and a grand there, but sorry I don't buy it for a minute. And then what, and then what and then what? We all skip off into the sunset and the Premier League? Fan ownership for a club this size is a complete non starter and you're right some of the 34 are those groups and Christ are they wasting Mark Fry's time. More harm than good. Give me businessmen any day of the week - its good enough for the top five, six, seven in the Premier League. It's good enough for the top six of this division. You think we're disorganised now, wait until you have 6,000 fans arguing about who should be Deputy Assistant Chief Treasurer of the Club

Yawn. We're talking to 34 potential investors. We are not Aldershot or York City whose problems can be solved by a few buckets shaken round the bloody stadium. People have just lost their minds here, and seem to think that just because SLH have gone into administration we're all now part of an episode of Jossy's Giants where the players and the fans knock doors and wash people's cars to keep the club going. Its funny because in six months time the very same people that are currently prepared to auction off a kidney to pay off three days wages for Rudi Skacel will be screaming blue murder when the new owners start putting up marketing messages on the website, or stick fifty quid on the season ticket price. Micky Channon said exactly what I've been saying a couple of days ago. It's obscene. But Saints seem to have plenty of mug punters around to keep it going. Just remember that in a few months time when you all start moaning about being "taken for granted" again.

Don't you own a radio then? If you live in the Solent/Radio Hants area why bother spending money on Saints TV in the first place? Just buy a radio for five quid. I'm confused!

Err - a ten point penalty before the deadline would have GUARENTEED relegation as well. You really are an utter retard.

So there is there nowhere on the web playing this game?

LOL. The poll would be Lowe by an absolute landslide, it's ridiculous you're even making out you don't know what result it would return. And it won't be anything like a MORI poll, just a two day argument on a web forum. Seriously, move on.

Amen. The only time I wanted to actually hear the preamble, it's off. And Radio Hampshire listen live isn't working either. Sh i te. Fry out.

Not really. It wasn't "stock market listing" that appointed Steve Wigley and Jan Poortvliet. Just the crazed appointments of a lunatic and the architect of two (yes, two, deal with it) relegations. The first five, six, seven years of "stock market listing" we were more than fine and prospered where our peers went down. Perry and co haven't got a fu ck ing clue about anything and I wouldn't trust them with the proverbial whelk stall. Spare us from the rent-a-quote Scargillettes.

Ahh, that'll be it then. Didn't know that key piece of info.

Surprised no-one has started a thread about this, maybe it was just me that heard it. Jeff Stelling was on Five Live earlier talking about his new book, Soccer Saturday and Football in general and went out of his way to talk about Southampton as being one of the sad stories of the season. I'm pretty sure he described Saints as "pretty close to my heart". Mentioned that he was talking to Bobby Charlton about us (!) - how could a club so well run for so long have fallen so far, he said something about Bobby saying how Saints always pushed/battled well against the top clubs in the land and now look at them. And then Stelling said - all the fans are saying where has the money for Theo gone, where has the money for Beattie gone, where has the money for Kenwynne gone, where has the money for Wayne Bridge gone. It was pretty impassioned and I was quite surprised. And he didn't even mention Matty, which is where I thought he was coming from - it seems very much "his own" view if you like. Anyway, sounded nice to hear support from a relatively high profile figure, and genuinely unprompted too. If anyone wants to here it it was on Colin Murray standing in for Simon Mayo on Five Live today between 2:15 and 2:45, sorry can't quite remember precise time. http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/programmes/#s

No art gallery on earth shows their entire collection all at once, all the time. Some are in storage, some are on display. It's not about "effing room". It's called "curation". And secondly, the art gallery is one of the best provincial art galleries in the country - ie doing its job very well. SFC is not doing its job very well. Why on earth should a success story be forced to prop up a failure.