CB Fry

I'd like to know what the board of Wolverhampton Wanderers have to say about this so called plan. I don't think anything significant is going to happen without their say so.

Six managers in one calendar year is not "bad luck". You would never be so stupidly forgiving with our current chairman, so why the doe eyed hero worship of Milan?

So there I was, walking down the sidewalk in LA, looking at LA people going about their business in LA which is where I live, and its a busy place in LA where I live and I was looking in the shop window of an LA shop in LA where I live and I thought to myself about the next transfer window while I stood in LA looking through this LA shop window in LA. Where I live. So, who do people think we should go for in the transfer window this summer?

The one thing I did like about our "day in the sun" was that we did do it with players we could at least empathise with a little bit, and with players that were actually at their peak at Southampton - "our" players. Beattie, Marsden, Pahars, Niemi, Lundekvam, Svennson, Bridge, Oakley, Richards, Paul Jones. Never surpassed what they acheived at Saints* - truly Southampton players. Our players. Pompey can't say that about Sol Campbell, or Peter Crouch, or Kanu or Defoe. It was when we signed the likes of Mark Hughes it felt wrong and sour. He was a waste of space for us. I look at our glory day (it felt like a day, fleeting) with fondness because it wasn't built on slabs of cash thrown at mercenaries. We could have built on the Cup run a bit more, maybe, but Pompey and West Ham did throw money and they've shown very little really changes, and often things get worse because teams reach a level they can't surpass. All three of us lost managers in the season after our cup final/eighth place acheivement. Of the three, Saints with a comfortable finish of 12th actually did the best of the three so far in the season-after, Pompey's final placing notwithstanding. Of course we know what happened next. And you can pre-judge Zoltan, if you like. Be my guest! He is clearly awful....he couldn't even get into the Stevenage team last season! Another pointless waste of money in an utterly clueless, pointless season. I don't think we will end up non league, but you are right - under this dopey, selfish, pig headed regime it is the only direction we are going.

That's funny, when I say the exact same thing - no-one apart from the couple of wind ups on here want Lowe involved in the club - you tell me I'm wrong. What gives?

Martinez is 35, Ferguson is 37. Not sure how being two years older qualifies as "a bit old". Age-wise, both of them could still play professionally. 37 is young for a manager by any standards. And, err, Nigel Pearson is 45.

Pompey got to eigth and a cup final, and so did we. We had to play a brilliant London team in Cardiff, Pompey got to play a rubbish Cardiff team in London. There is barely any difference between our "highs" especially since our first season after the cup final was far more successful than Pompey's is turning out to be. Pompey did better in Europe, but we were fourth in January in our season after the cup final, so lets say the two even themselves out. And since 1997 up until the relegation season we only had one season as relegation battlers (Jones second season), whereas throughout the rest of the nineties we were perennial relegation fodder, save Alan Ball's single full season. I think that's pretty good. So why have Portsmouth had a "day in the sun" and we haven't?

Sorry, you are mental. The idea that no-one at the Express and Star have no recollection of a news story about Wolverhampton Wanderers releasing a club statement about their intention to purchase and develop another Coca Cola Championship Club should tell you all you need to know. For the Express and Star (as I have said several times) that is a massive story. A gigantic story. Not something people would say "ohh, not sure, it might be here somewhere". It would be on the frigging front page. I know you say at the beginning you didn't think it was a story with any validity, and that's fine. If you look at when I joined this thread, its when you started putting that fake newspaper article on here as proof. In fact, go back to the first page of the thread. There I am adding to the debate about why Lowe wouldn't sell to Morgan. And then I don't come back on here until the "news story" turns up, which is just an embarrassing fake. You can't have it both ways: either you think its a load of nonsense and stop going on about it. Or you believe it, ring up sportsdesks to chase fake articles and get arsey when anyone dares suggest its rubbish. Which is what you seem to be doing. You seem to think that only you are allowed to say you don't believe it, and everyone else must hang on until you give us permission to admit it is utter ********. Sorry, some of us have half a brain, and realise that newspaper article is a fake (an embarrassing apalling fake) and is making you look ridiculous. And stop pretending you are at the heart of some fantasticly interesting story and we should all thank you for it. You're not, you just look silly. As I said to you via PM, forget the newspaper and start asking Wolverhampton Wanderers why their "club statement" about buying Southampton Football Club has failed to see the light of day on the WWFC website on the Express and Star website on the BBC Wolves site on Sky, or Sky's website through the Press Association to the rest of the media because I think their fans have a right to know what is going on, no? Or, maybe there was no club statment.... When you posted a harmless rumour initially it was a bit of a laugh, but your fanatical defending of this laughably fake "club statement" news story is just making you look silly.

True enough. But "Wolves owner to buy another football club" is reasonably big news in Wolverhampton. But it looks like you had to buy a particular edition of one newspaper on one specific day to find out about it.

I LOL'd at that. That must have been one hell of a leak. He was up there for about six months once it all kicked off back home....:smt042

Err - "football club 3rd in the League" is not really a big story. It's good news for Villa fans, and football neutrals but is not earth shattering. "Football club in Premier League" again is not a "big story" as there are twenty there each season, well done West Brom for being there. Football club release "club statement" about their intention to buy and develop another club in the same league is an absolutely gigantic story, unheard of and not permitted since Maxwell tried to merge Oxford and Reading and then buy Derby as well back in the eighties. If you seriously think the black country Express and Star, one of the biggest regional dailys in Britain would hide a story like that in one paragraph, not put it on their website and Wolverhampton Wanderers would not publish their "club statement" anywhere on their website or through any other traditional media channels (BBC WM maybe, or WCR FM) then sorry, I can't help you. You seem to be concerned with you and your mate and facebook. I don't care about any of that. It's just a silly story, it was a good rumour, well done, but the "news story" is b o l l o c k s.

Bingo! It's just like the old days. We used to get someone doing the old "investors won't invest because of the negativity on this forum" once or twice a week back in that long, crazy summer of 2007. Help me, Rhonda. Just make sure you ask the editor why the fu ck he didn't go a little bit bigger on what would probably be the biggest story in West Midlands football since Villa won the European Cup. If I was him, I'd have put it on the website, at least. Oh, and you could also ask Wolverhampton Wanderers Football Club why "club statements" aren't available to Wolverhampton fans who don't live in the E&S circulation area or bought the paper on the day your mate did. Why don't they put their "club statements" out on their own website. After all, with their messageboards not as good as ours, it must be the only place to go for "club statements". Here's that not very important "club statement" again: "It is intended that the new capital, over a period of time, will be used to help re-establish Southampton and Wolves as Premiership clubs. Where Wolves is Morgan’s initial concern, returning the glory days of top league football to Hampshire is on the agenda. "Although there would be a significant amount of money there will not be an 'open cheque book' approach to signing players; instead the club would build on the current strategy of steadily and progressively developing a team of young, hungry and talented players." Why isn't Morgan telling Wolves fans this through the normal channels? With this kind of attitude to keeping his fanbase informed I wouldn't want him at Saints

Well, I think you have, it's pretty clear that "article" is a fake, and why on earth would a story that big not be on the Wolves section of the Express and Star website. Have a look on there and see all the red hot stories keeping your mate's story about the owner of Wolverhampton Wanderers buying another Championship club away from the site. Just think about it. If Lowe (or even Crouch) was about to buy Norwich, don't you think it would merit more than a paragraph in the Echo? Not one Wolves messageboard has a word on it. Nothing on the BBC. Nothing on Sky. Nothing anywhere. Putting the rumour up in the first place was fair enough, carry on, we all like a rumour. When I saw it a couple of days ago, I thought it was harmless silliness. It's when you/your mate start using made up articles from the local press as "evidence" that it starts to look silly. The only way those words appeared in the Express and Star like that were if the E&S run a "internet rumours" column with a policy of printing any old rubbish.

I take it everyone realises this is a wind up. That is not an article from a local newspaper. Read it, and then read a real article in the Echo or any newspaper. It's an appalling fake. Why would the Express and Star, a local paper for the Black Country need to make no reference to Southampton (just "St Mary's" and "the club") but go into extreme precise detail about how Morgan bought Wolves a couple of years ago (I think their local paper would assume Wolves fans would know). Our Echo doesn't talk about Secure Retirement everytime they mention Lowe, do they? If Wolverhampton Wanderers had made a "club statement" about how them and Southampton would be fighting to get into Premier League together then that would have been picked up by every newspaper in the land. If Lowe had announced he was going to buy (say) Bournemouth and work on them together, don't you think there would be a few threads on it here? So what do the Wolves fans think on their messageboards? Or if Gaydamak said he was going to buy Ipswich as well, don't you think it might be on South Today? And on SSN? Slightly big news, eh? And how come our own Echo have decided not to bother to carry a story in another local paper about how another club in our league wants to buy us? You've been proper done there, Torbay. Happy Facebooking chaps.

You only need to be an average manager to keep that squad in the Premier League. Adams wasn't average, he was awful.

Curbishley. Who will keep them up easily.

I think he had trials for Forest at one point, but I think he may be an Arse fan these days (I think media types can be quite loose when it comes to football teams - just look at Fiona "Saints till they are relegated...Chelsea till I die" Phillips. What a sl ag.) Anyway, we agree on the main point - Frost and Davies as die hard Saints saviours - poppy****!

Did these Arab and Iraeli consortiums line up bids for any other middling to small Prem league teams at the time - Coventry or Forest or Leicester or Derby or Ipswich or Norwich or Bolton? Surely they wouldn't have just had their heart set on little old Saints? Just interested in what happened to them. As for for Frost/Davis I think that is the single biggest urban myth in Southampton Football club history. Being that Davies is now a season ticket holder at the Emirates and he has had over a decade to realise his "dream" of owning Saints - it never was going to happen, and never will.

The big difference is when wolves were for sale Jack Hayward let the buyers (presumably this Morgan chap) have the club for a pound just as long as they commited to investing x million into the team. I think it would take more than a pound and some nice football-team related investment promises to prise the shares out of Rupert's cold, dead hand.

Oh dear, you won't fit in around here. You seem to be labouring under the assumption that going into administration is a bad thing, and does no good whatsoever for the club going into admin. Frankly you're wrong. Administration is a fantastic empowering experience that makes all clubs fifty times stronger than ever before and shooting back up through the leagues like Apollo 11. It will be the single greatest thing that ever happens to us and I for one will be dancing on the streets when we go into admin as it is second only to winning the Euromillions on a quadruple rollover. Or something. Well it must be that for the number of fans on here screaming for us to "take the plunge" and ranting on about how brilliant it will be to have "a clean slate".

Who from? Nineteen canteen who is just SomeDunce reincarnated? You're seeing some gigantic pro Lowe movement to rail against that simply isn't there.

Manager of team says he is pleased that some of his best players were not sold in the transfer window.....and then gets absolutely ripped apart by some fans for saying such a thing. Read it again and ask yourself - what are you actually getting upset about? What the f uc k is wrong with some people.

Now that is a bit of a strange wish. The funny thing is Nicholl never did anything of note at any other club, which for a man who had five years top flight experience and was pretty successful against anyone's standards, was quite odd. He was at Walsall for about five minutes, disappeared, came back to Walsall as Ray Graydon's assistant and now he does something for the pools panel or press association or something where he counts how many corners are taken at matches in the midlands. I'm sure he'd jump at the chance to finish what he started in 1991

Do remind us what you're "doing" again? You've said many times you have no desire to do anything, which is fair enough, but that means you can't spout rubbish like that last line. You're proving my point. The fact is no-one except for a couple of people on this forum (on a wind up IMO) want Lowe to remain. But that's too difficult for you and others to grasp so you have to rail against anyone who doesn't take up the extreme view of wanting him dead and his guts dragged up Western Esplanade, and make out there's a huge swell of pro Lowe people you have to go into battle against. And bang on, and on, and on about the same old stuff. We got relegated did we? £90,000 in the first season down, eh? Dutch morons in charge? No. shi t. The people you think you are locked in a 100 years war with? They don't exist. And don't make out you are at war "against Lowe" because you have admitted in the past to doing nothing (again, fair enough, I'm with you).

Well, we haven't finished seventh in the top division since Nicholl.