DT

We need to persuade Potter to pick us in the Championship as the team to rebuild from the bottom up. He's taking a break and apparently won't take the Leicester job just yet. Let him bring Bruno and whoever. Kick Selles out as he's blind to appropriate team selections. Sell JWP (if he hasn't been already), KWP (ditto), Lavia (because we cannot possibly keep him) and hopefully pay someone to take Ely and Che. Pump all that into experienced pros with metal but no little skill. Allow Potter free rein. Do a Brighton, again. Only way out in my view. Otherwise witness the slide.

What a dismal, chicken shit, lily-livered performance from a bunch of mercenaries who care only about avoiding injury and their next contract. Lavia and perhaps Perraud aside, they were united in a lack of gumption, ability, desire, guts, determination and application. Hey, KWP, so you're gutted, yes? How about actually going forward with pace and desire? JWP, nice tippy tappies. Well done. Good luck at Spurs with your best fwend, or Newcastle, or wherever. Stu - used to love your drive and ability, but where's it gone? What the fuck was that loopy cross? Mara - how about you at least run around a bit? Walcott, face it, mate, it's over. You looked like a Dad who'd won a competition to play with the stars. I could go on. But added to that we have a manager who is seen by some as the new messiah as he wears a black rollneck but selects such negative, defensive dross when we have a must win. Ely? What does he have on you? Why not pick the pace we have and use it, rather than this tedious 'keep it tight and see where we are' tactic which is so clearly a Ralph legacy. Yet to see that you have anything like what it takes to be a decent manager. Should have listened to some of us and got Dyche in (who will beat Spurs tonight) I'm so angry about yesterday, and so many other abject, no-guts performances from this bunch of unlikeable cretins. If we need a reset, it's to go and get experienced bruisers to get us out of the Championship, or we are in danger of facing another desperate struggle to stay up again next year. PS anyone want my Palace tickets? (joking)

Zero pace in this side. Or actual realization of the plight we’re in, seemingly. Such a painful watch - slow and plodding, just so pleased with tippy tap. Ralph legacy.

Can anyone explain how Elyanoussi keeps getting picked? Does Selles like shit footballers?

It’s all over guys

Spurs being shit and us having a lot of luck

I think we also have too many players including the captain who have their eyes on where they will be playing next season, rather than fighting for this. Only takes a tiny percentage of one's application - avoiding that nasty challenge, not quite busting your gut - to get exploited and be on the end of a bad loss. Also, if we have a manager who is cautious rather than going for it (Selles fits that, I'd say) it offers the opportunity for other teams with more balls to go for it from the off and gain the upper hand. Perhaps when we are further adrift this attitude will prevail, to our benefit; ie when we have to go for it. Because we need to be safe before Brighton, in my view, otherwise we're down, and they will be delighted to be the ones to confer Championship status on us.

This has the ring of truth to it. If we do beat the Hammers I think Moyes will be toast, and then Rafa will come in. Just a hunch. But yes I think Bournemouth will win - just hope Leicester win too as Palace more likely to go down than them (or maybe we should hope for a draw). Think Everton will beat Spurs, who are in all sorts of trouble off the field. I think the Hammers will win 2-1

Precious little chance of this coming off this season, given length of time needed for judgement/appeal etc. So although it sounds possible, doubt if it has any more legs than Man City getting a slap on the wrists. If it was us, we'd have doubtless been thrown to the bottom of league one...

We claim another scalp, not by beating a team but by them not winning. And the manager basically sacking himself. Way to go saints.

You want to get relegated, and think we will win lots of games in the Championship. Righto.

Mitrovic - seem to recall when a Saints player manhandled a ref we had a ten point reduction (even if this was in the Cup). Let’s see. Would be handy to have another relegation candidate… (I know this won’t happen)

I said at the time that we needed to go get him when Ralph was in his turgid period at the back end of last season. We have lower expectations than Everton, meaning it was even more laughable and unrealistic to have awarded a lucrative contract (and ultimately our survival chances) to that pillock from Luton. I still have to pinch myself at the stupidity of the board and Rasmus in particular, with his ego-driven belief in numbers and not common sense. We will pay for it by having many years in the Championship or even below. Which is very sad. Going to try and see Saints in the premier while i can as much as i can in the run up to being sent down by Brighton, probably. The only thing giving me a little optimism is our goal difference is currently not the worst, meaning being level on the last day may still be ok

Just imagine if we’d got Sean Dyche when we should (despite those on here whining about his ‘playing style’). Gets results. And we’d be well clear. Bloody algorithms

Decent point. But it must be over a year since I saw a Saints manager pick a starting eleven and i thought yes, that's our best possible team out there. Always so many weirdnesses and seeming behind the scenes reasons for selection. Also, no belief. Selles seems to have inherited that very conservative latter years Ralph tendancy of doing nothing for ages and hoping for the best and then finally going for it when it's too late, Neat summary of our season, to be honest

Interesting to see the zip and energy Forest have as well as attacking threat, compared to us. Oh and voluble home support. I guess football is cyclical and we’re just in another downward cycle

Anyone who thinks Selles is any good should actually just look at his team selections. And those he was clearly behind in the mystifying ones by Hassenhuttl. Another find of pure shite. Well done Saints. Would we have preferred a loss last game and a draw tonight ? Dunno. Do know there is fuck all fight in this team, and an absolute streak of nothingness that runs right through the club like letters in a stick of rock.

Much as I hate Newcastle, them beating Wolves is a decent outcome for Saints

Point sadly not good enough. If we’d gone down to 10 men they’d have gone for it and won. We haven’t got goals

and now Everton go one up. Could be the weekend we are doomed

Liverpool will be back to finish the job on the last day. Had a feeling Salah was missing that. Van Dyjke looked appalling

Ffs Liverpool. Why choose today to be so shit? Drugs worn off from Man U game?

Yup. A 'minimise the goal difference suffering' kind of game in prospect. Please no Bednarek.

We're going to get smashed. Might get ugly.

Just cannot see how that is a penalty in the Chelsea game. Defender is a yard away. Chilwell hits it at him. He turns his head. It hits his hand. Absolute joke.