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Yeah, if by 'instantly' he meant kill over 230,000 people and last over a year.

The point in the lockdowns is not to stop everyone getting the virus or trying to wipe it out, they are purely to stop the NHS getting overwhelmed. Once the vulnerable are immune, or most of them immune, then hospital admissions shouldn't be at risk of getting too high. Obviously it won't be party time from day one but as more and more people get vaccinated, restrictions will lift and I think normality will return pretty quickly.

Not sure it will be that long. You don't have to vaccinate everyone, once the vulnerable people get done we can just crack on as usual.

Playing a blinder

It's all irrelevant anyway, Pfizer's vaccine works so we will be back at football/nightclubs/gang-bangs in no time at all.

Of course it’s not ok but I expect if you investigate every election ever held you will find some examples in every one. Trump’s claims that the election was stolen are just laughable when you look at the numbers involved. There just needs to be a smooth transition then look at the voting process ahead of next time.

It will be interesting to see if the orange one continues with this voter fraud bullshit even after the full results come in. It looks like Biden will end up with 5 mill plus more of the popular vote and around 70 more college votes so whatever happened in Philadelphia would be irrelevant anyway.

So moaning about a government is the same thing as the President of the USA inventing fraud stories to undermine their own democratic process. face it, you are talking bollocks as usual.

Brilliant. I didn’t even vote remain you bell-end.

It would be the same if the people in charge of the remain campaign invented stories of voter fraud to try and get the result overturned. Not sure that happened.

They just showed that on the BBC and it was just a joke. He was walking away when the reporter asked for a quick word for the bbc, he just said I’m Irish and laughed. You snowflakes shouldn’t be so easily offended.

Trump didn’t give a shite about us, any deal he struck would have just ended up with us getting butt fucked. The whole World is better off without that petulant, bullshitter in charge of a superpower.

It's as if policies on public toilets were not very high on the list of priorities among the American public.

Fuck me do the yanks have a problem with counting or something? Nevada seems to have been on 75% for over a day now and that's just Vegas and a load of desert, can't be that many to count.

Think that’s right, if he stays ahead where he is leading then he’s won.

Are there not only 538 votes?

It is mind-boggling how in a country of that size, the best they can come up with as an opposition is some 77 year old corpse who keeps forgetting stuff. I hope he sneaks it but the country shouldn't be in this position. Completely bonkers.

Isn't that the rules, if they are postmarked on election day they are counted?

Trump wants to stop counting votes and let the courts decide.

You're all over the place on this. You post up an irrelevant graph that doesn't prove anything, make a baseless claim about masks making people complacent then go on about why is research not being done, when it has been done you just haven't bothered looking. Even if mask wearing has a very minimal effect is is an easy, cheap and painless way of helping reduce the spread which is why it's a no-brainer.

There are many reasons why Korea has done so well, track and trace is probably the main reason but masks have played their part. There was some Korean expert on the radio the other day explaining why. Even though masks have a limited effect, because it is a cheap and easy thing that the whole population can do straight away it helps with the numbers.

I thought they gave people a false sense of security so they can’t concentrate on other measures? Then you posted some pointless graph showing cases going up after masks were introduced.

Your stat is meaningless, maybe without masks there would be 2,000 plus deaths? My point about South Korea is that they clearly know what they are doing. They learned their lessons from the Mers pandemic so surely the wise thing to do would be to learn from them no? If wearing masks made things worse, as you say, why do they do it and have such good results?

I haven’t seen a single person claim masks were the solution. They just obviously help and I’m not sure there are any stats that prove otherwise. Here’s a stat, South Korea, who wore masks from day 1: deaths 468. UK who didn’t: 46,857.

Also a weird correlation between them and climate change denial.