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Surely with an ever increasing threat, and massive immigration the numbers should be increasing as well as being made more effective?

I don't think clothing is the problem, it's hiding your face that expect people have a problem with. Terrorists, ninjas, bank robbers, Darth Vader - they all hide their face for a reason.

Looks like first on the scene was an ordinary bobby from the BTP. Oh look, they have had cuts... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-osborne-accused-of-risking-security-by-cutting-3m-from-british-transport-police-a6870891.html

A good vote winner, to finally come out and say "Islam".

I don't agree with Labour or Lib Dems on their policy for security, they need more powers of surveillance and more powers to lock people up. But the idea that the cops would not shoot to kill in these situations under Labour is nonsense.

About as useful as a **** off great big missile ready to fire on a submarine somewhere.

So the cuts have not happened then?

Of course they would. He has already praised their actions.

That's why they will never get into power, the guy is an idiot.

I think history shows that the threat is ever changing and these people are prepared to do anything for maximum impact. It would be naive in the extreme to think there is no risk outside the big cities. The Police have done an amazing job here, which is why it makes no sense to cut their numbers. They are all that stands between 6 dead or 60 dead.

7/7 they didn't.

They seem to target big cities that doesn't mean they won't attack elsewhere in the future though. Only a fool would assume otherwise. I would increase policing in the cities as a priority as well.

I think you will find these guys have cars mate.

The next attack might be in Devon or Cornwall, it could be anywhere.

You genuinely don't think more police would help in this sort of situation? Wow, just wow. Those bobbies on the beat are the same people who have to put armour on and respond to these sort of things. Even if they are not armed they would be doing vital work in securitising areas, organising, giving first aid, getting witness statements, communicating the situation on the ground to HQ. Also community policing is important in the first place to try and forge good relationships with Muslim communities so that they are more likely to pass on information about potential extremists.

I expect there would be more if it wasn't for May's cuts. The Met is just London anyway so not really a relevant to most of the UK.

I agree that the problem is Islam but surely the more police the better? The Conservatives have cut the police by 20,000. I think an estimate 16,000 more will go if their cuts continue - all because they are scared to tax the rich a little bit more. My next door neighbour is in the police and he is jacking it in after 20 years. He reckons there will be more of these sort of things and according to him "Teresa May is going to be eating her ****ing words".

And it makes sense to cut our police service because...

Or maybe don't blow all our cash on a pointless nuclear weapon and instead stop cutting our police service?

The Tories are obviously going to win but the way they are struggling up against a bunch of no hopers like Corbyn and Abbot is ****ing embarrassing. It's like watching Pompey get promoted from div 4. I actually hope they win just to see what a complete mess they make of Brexit.

And in English?

If it is there it is still a deterant regardless of who is PM. ****ing huge waste of money anyway. The days of major civilised nations going to war are long gone.

I don't get this obsession with pressing the nuclear button in some hypothetical attack.

This. Don't the EU negotiations start just 11 days after the election result? Will be a right cluster **** if it is a hung parliament.

I've read bits on all of those thanks. Sunspots and changes in the Earths orbit have an effect but I haven't seen any evidence of it being the driver of the recent, relatively rapid change. The other theories, as you say, are in their infancy so it would be foolish to ignore what we do know when the future of mankind is potentially at stake. We know the properties of CO2 and other greenhouse gasses, we know we are pumping billions of tons out every year, and we know the climate is changing relatively fast. At the moment you are like someone taking a **** in a bath and trying to think up a weird and wonderful theory of why the water is turning yellow.