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We need experience in the side but too injury prone IMO.

There is no way Liverpool would go for Adkins, the scousers would be ****ed off if they hire Martinez and he's managed in the Prem.

Downing! f*ck me we are desperate. And who the hell is John Ruddy? England have to be one of the worst sides in this year's finals.

I think demand will be higher than last time in the Prem purely because a whole load of our younger fans will never have been to the Old Traffords etc. Will be a big novelty factor. Many of the usual grumpy old sods who spent decades watching us get dicked wont bother though.

It is odd as you would think the longer they are on sale the more they would sell. I can't see how they would make more by chasing matchday tickets, the only way they would was if virtually every game was a sell out.

I'm talking about potential to invest you mong, I'm not saying anything is going to happen just that we're in a great position. To be fair, I can see why you think others on here are more intelligent than you.

Of course the club had ambition in the 80's, Big Mac and Ted Bates had huge ambition which was obvious. The Keegan signing showed that and also showed how players wages, and money overall wasn't such a big issue back then. The club didn't have the resources to build a 35K stadium on Western Esplanade though, even though they wanted to and the council offered to pay part of it. And the club was never in a completely secure position financially. The difference is now SFC could build what they want. If the owners thought a 50K superdome complete with hotel, ice rink and monkey petting zoo was a good idea they could do it. They have the resources to invest. The club before couldn't - it could now. F*cks sake, this is hard work.

What's that got to do with anything? I'm illustrating the point that the club didn't have the resources to build a new 35K ground at Western Esplanade in the 70s/80s even though they wanted to. We could now. We have the ambition AND resources.

Why do you suppose the club tried to get a new stadium built then if they didn't think the Dell was holding them back? The Western Esplanade 35K idea collapsed because the club and council couldn't agree on funding (we had the ambition, but not the resources to carry it through). You point about Keegan show how much the game has changed. Doesn't alter the fact that if we had billionaire owners back then we could have got more players like that and maybe finished higher than the 2nd place we achieved.

Think you will find even in the 80's a new stadium would have seen a rise in attendances. Also the corporate set-up at the Dell was virtually non-exsistent. We didn't sell out every game at the Dell right up until the last couple of seasons, yet we still pulled in 32K at SMS when people like you were saying we would never fill it.

Because the big clubs would have brought more fans down. It aint rocket science. Anyway it's not all about attendances, if we had rich owners then we could have brought in the players to win the league.

Because if it was bigger we would have had a higher average. More income.

Probably because it was sh!t. The Dell obviously limited us, otherwise why move?

We were still limited by the Dell though, if we had billionaire owners then we probably would have won the league, at least once. And that stadium on Western Esplanade would have been built. Understand now? Ambition AND resources.

What we have for the first time in our history is ambition and resources. I will say it again so you understand, ambition AND resources. That means we have potential to grow that we have never had before, that's POTENTIAL to grow. That is the point some are trying to get across to the dell brains. We can be bigger than we were before.

Oh dear, they sound so desperate! Their problem is that the buying clubs know they could get the players for free once they are liquidated. Plus the players know that if they go anywhere for free they get higher wages. Everyone's a winner with liquidation.

Anywhere past the Watford gap is North IMO. It's good that there is more Southern clubs, we havn't seemed to have done that well up north recently. Loses to Blackpool, Doncaster and Boro spring to mind.

Short term pain for long term gain. They need to take the medicine and get out of the Euro, blow off the debt and devalue to get their economy moving again.

City's third went in just after the final whistle at Stoke. There no need for any questions, QPR's players would have seen their fans celebrating and relaxed. Just a natural reaction.

Fantastic stuff, love, ****ing love watching Man Utd fans cry.

I wanted City to win it but it's ****ing hilarious watching them mess it up.

If there is no chance of extra demand why has Cortese talked about expanding? Even building a a new ground completely?

I can't grow apparently, according to some on here we have 32,500 fans, thats it. History says so, nothing can change.

Next season will be tough but if we stay up we have the resources to invest and build which we never had before.

You can't argue with that sort of retarded logic. So basically, every time we sold out at SMS there wasn't a single person who phoned up and was told, sorry we are sold out!