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Excellent performance, well done to Wotte and the boys. Just proves my point that with a half decent manager this team could easliy be mid table. Also shows how suicidal it was of Lowe to freeze out players like Euell and Skacel, if we go down he will have alot to answer for.

Give up Delldays, you have to admit giving any sort of abuse to a kid for organising this is pretty sad. I didn't go on th first march (couldn't for proffesional reasons) and don't think the second one will achieve anything. But still respect anyone who cares enough and gets off his ass to organise something like this, all for the right reasons. The fact that he is just a kid makes it even more impressive. the trust should be doing this sort of thing but havn't been bothered.

I don't agree with it but it could be argued that it is in the long term interests of the club to get rid of Lowe/Wilde and the PLC so relegation and admin is a price worth paying? Short term pain for long term gain. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean they are any less of a fan than you for holding that opinion.

I think the dealine is halfway through March to take the -10 this season, we will probably be pretty much down by then anyway so it should be a descision even Lowe can get right.

It's no surprise to see you making apologies for him Frank. I still remember you justifying the rediculous Poorvliet experiment at the start of the season (spot on there eh?). Surely even you can see that what he is saying is not going to help. ALL the people who march are true fans - if they didn't care about the club they wouldn't be there. Wotte should have said as much.

Oh dear, I have read some crap on message boards before but that sweeping statement takes the ****! Are you not the **** who spent half a day arguing about a meeting you never even attended? LOL

It's replys like that which make you want the administrator to be called in to give the whole ****ing lot of them the bullet.

Sounds like your source has an agenda to me (most people that close to what's going on have their own interests/motives). There is no reason why admin would mean the end of SFC.

StuRomseysaint is 100% right a second march to the ground is completely pointless. If anything it will have the opposite effect, the message it will send to Lowe is: "we are a bunch of mugs and make lots of noise but will keep paying your wages regardless" It wont even get any press coverage because "Saints fans go on a march again" is not even a story that would make the Echo.

People who look and sound that German shouldn't bang on about war all the time IMO.

Maybe if they had been inspired by their 80,000 it would have been 6-0? The atmosphere in a stadium does effect the players, there is obviously not alot of difference a crowd can make but surely we want to give the lads on the pitch every possible advantage regardless of who's running the club? I remember when Sunderland got relegated from the Prem, they called the ground the Stadium of Fright because the atmoshphere was so bad the players were scared to express themselves - do we want that tat SMS? - of course not.

LOL at Jonah arguing about a meeting he wasn't even at! What a plonker.

Above average - you ****

I totally agree, if we go down it is Lowe's fault - it's a simple as that. BUT, creating a sour, nasty atmosphere for our players is not going to help them. Getting behind the team DOES help - players and managers have said that time and time again. I'm up for protesting/rioting whatever, but only if it looks like we are definitely not going to get 3 points.

Protesting is bound to effect the players and is just self-defeating - we all want Lowe out but do we even know if Crouch wants to step in and take over at this stage? Protest if we are being soundly beaten - if we have a chance of getting a result we should just get behind the team, up until then just take your frustration out on PNE.

English managers would cost more than most foreign but the manager's salary is insignificant compared to players wages/fees etc. Hiring a manager because they are cheap will always be a false economy - 1 bad signing and you've more than lost anything you've made form their wages. Every manager is a risk, if we hired Jose Moriniho there would be a risk. Hiring an inexperienced foreign manager just multiplies all those risks - we were not in a position to add more.

The Trust should be the voice but they are in Lowe's pocket. How about we all join the Trust and vote that kid who organised the march to run it?

I agree, there is no reason why a good foreign manager cannot succeed but when hiring managers with no record in this country you are taking extra risks. There are managers with better records than Wotte/Poortvleit AND they achived it in this country - that's my point as to why the appointments dont make sense. If we could cherry pick whoever we wanted from Europe like QPR it wouldnt matter.

I think you'll find Reid, Dowie, Robson and Holloway have more promotions between them than Sousa, De Canio, Martinez and Tigana. QPR are minted and De Canio was sacked, I think Martinez has played in English football and Fulham were minted as well. I'm not against foreigners as a rule I just think with our inexperienced squad it's a bit of a gamble having an inexperienced manager. If I was a billionare in charge of Fulham or QPR I wouldn't be so concerned.

Most deals are not paid up front, it makes no difference when we pay the money we are still making a commitment of the amount which is reported as upto £1.2mill euros. As for the Arsenal thing - that's a laugh for that shower of ****e.

When you look at the effect Billy Davis has had at Forest (they were below us when he took over) it's obvious what effect a decent manager can have. It doesn't matter if they are English or not, but experience of the English leagues is vital with such an inexperienced squad. For the long term someone like Nigel Pearson was ideal, now we just need somone to keep us up - I would go for an experienced old head who can handle the pressure, I think the kids would benefit big time from someone they know knows their stuff. The very last type of person I would want is a foreign manager with no experience of the Championship - it's mind boggeling how Lowe came to appoint Poortvleit/Wotte.

You could try watching the game and not the fights in the stands - it's not hard. Thick and thin, you're having a laff.

1 Wigley - worst Premiership appointment by anyone ever. 2 Poortvleit/Wotte - Footballing suicide 3 Renewing Redknapp's contract when he clearly wasn't motivated, giving him naff all to spend then forcing Woodward and Clifford on him just to really screw up our "re-promotion" season.

We might as well wait until we are 2 or 3 down before we start protesting, will probably only miss 20-30mins of protest time. Although it's very unlikley there is a chance we could stay up if we get a result Saturday and results go our way. Get behind the lads, when it becomes obvious we are not going to get a result let Lowe n co have it with pure venom.

Jimmy Case for me.