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I think you agree with me more than you want to admit LOL.

The Red Stripe is flowing, so here goes. As with VFTT, Turkish, Kingsland Red etc, the thing that phisses me off is the sheer hypocrisy spouted by many. We abuse Portsmuff for not questioning how their club was run, but then blindly accept that all is OK with ours and we shouldn't dare to question what's happening. One fan of many years is targeted for daring to criticise aspects of the Club, not undermine it he just made a small criticism, and the response is disproportionate and no one gave a damn about him. In fact many added there own unjustified abuse. As Channon said, the Club doesn't belong to those who care most and I totally accept that, but it doesn't have to be like this does it??? Now if does have to be this way, then perhaps football is no longer the thing I fell I love with. Really disappointed tonight, we seemed to be bringing some passion, togetherness and spirt back to the Club.

Hello!!!!! I saw that Kevin Costner documentary (Everything I Do) and he said he did. But with regards the OP, I disregard idiots at the extremes of all groups, religions, parties, sects etc. Of course they should be monitored etc, but I certainly don't think they are representative.

Football and Saints are not the Club I fell in love with in the 70s, but then again everything evolves and changes. So I have to accept that and move with the times. Its been hard at times over the years, but as VFTT says, the last few years have been really positive. Of course, winning a majority of games and relative success makes it all the more enjoyable, but I also think a more stable squad, "heroes" like Lallana, Lambert & co and a manager who won the respect of the crowd also helped. Today is a setback to that passion and pride, but once again probably not enough to stop me from supporting my team.

Boris or Turkish would get my vote on this one. With their inside info and a touch of angst, they'd get the message across.

I declined LOL. There's nothing we can do about it though, so no point. Let off a bit of steam on here, but that's about it.

Guy feeling is it will end in tears (so hope I'm wrong), so less than a year.

Win some games, keep us up, and the fickle fans will come up with a song for the new Emperor. Adkins will be a distant memory, someone remembered with great fondness, but that is all. We harp on about wanting something more than a Club, we harp on about loyalty, pride and honour, but when push comes to shove if this bloke delivers results, then all will be forgotten.

And as with Delgado who signed around the time of the Gray/Strachan changeover, I assume this is not the manager (whichever of the two) signing???? Im obviously old fashioned, but much prefer a set up where the manager signs players he wants, rather than other people's choices.

Then the fickle fans will be singing the Cortese song again?

A man at the top whose ego appears to know no bounds. Sacking a manager at a key time in the season. Wasting a transfer window. Manager(s) untried in English football. Remind me where we saw all this before????????? Massive gamble by Cortese and harping back to the good ole days, he will be based on results over the next few months. PS how many moaning today have in the past said we need to be careful we don't lose Cortese as he is instrumental in keeping the Liebherrs on board???

I posed the question a few months back that just as we had jettisoned/sidelined Hammond, Barnard, Sharp, Butterfield etc, would Cortese do the same and think Adkins was good Lg 1 & Champs manager, he was not Prem quality. Quite a negative response but it's sat with me for a while. Dont agree with decison, think Adkins was doing well in top flight after 2 fantastic seasons and had brought us success and stability.

I would venture that the right are actually more "all over the place" than the left. Rightly or wrongly, the left is largely pro EU (with some notable exceptions), whilst it is the right who are split. The EU argument split the Tories under Major, and it looks like Cameron is having the same problems!!!!

My biggest gripe in the current game is the play acting, going down like a sack of shtt when you've only been grazed, the rolling around only to get up and sprint off, holding your face when at worst you got a nudge in the shoulder,the general conning of refs. So therefore I am disappointed in J-Rod as its not something I like to see in the game. And as others before have said, my way of judging these events is "what would I be saying had it happened up the other end?".

Is much rather have a working port providing decent jobs, skills and a real living, than have a pretend docks and some chain pubs/restaurants/shops.

I heard yesterday that he was out for the season. Story was that he might get a game in before the end, but they have effectively written this season off. Of course it could be a load of billlocks, but source is normally good.

Certainly not condoning or excusing sexual offences, but I do have serious reservations about what's been going on recently. I would have much preferred justice to be done one way or the other when Saville was alive, rather than the way it has been played out in the media. On the BBC the other day they referred to him as "The paedophile Jimmy Saville", but as far as I was aware he had never been found guilty??? I fully accept that perhaps the way offences were handled, judged and recognised back then may have made it difficult to get a sympathetic/empathetic response from the Police & the Judiciary and many crimes probably went unreported. But I'm still left with a feeling that the current witchhunts and a desire to name people, be it on national TV or Twitter a tad undesirable. As for the Jim Davidson allegations, I'll be surprised if he can remember all the women he slept with back in his heyday (the woman who had the affair with Gordon Ramsey was yesterday boasting of a 3some with him years ago,that she doubted he would remember!!!) and would have thought it would be nigh on impossible to ascertain what actually happened in a hotel room 25 years ago.

Was thinking same thing walking home tonight, in that whilst I think Arsenal wont be happy with their performance I do think the main reason was that we outfought and out thought them in key areas. We definitely stifled them going forward and Ox, Theo, Giroud & Podolski never got much change out of the defence. Put them nder pressure in the midfield and never really let them play, although Wiltshere looked composed and dangerous whenever he had his foot on the ball.

Have to agree, not been Davis' biggest fan (not sure he offered us much up until now), but thought he was excellent today and had by far his best game for us. Thought our set up, tactics and the way we played was spot on today and although happy with a point also felt we played well enough to deserve all three. Some big performances out there today and wouldn't want to single anyone out as was a great team performance against an in form team.

Have to say I thought Boruc looked remarkably chilled today, almost so chilled that it looked as though he was just playing for a laugh! Would be interesting to know how the players felt playing in front of him?? Did they feel as calm as he looked, or they were nervous as those around me in The Itchen?? Personally, just don't think it's good form to be chopping and changing in outfield positions, but think its a nightmare scenario with a keeper. Adkins is obviously unsure of who is first choice, so I'd be up for him putting the argument to bed by bringing in a new number 1 pdq.

Trying to convince myself that an away point at Stoke is a decent result but failing miserably. 3-1 up, then even 3-2 against 10 men has got me thinking we've dropped points here rather than gained one. Very, very disappointed and can only hope the players aren't as downbeat as I am at throwing away a 3-1 lead!!!!!'

Second only to announcing you're leaving the board, posting on another website about how crap it is , only to come flouncing back. But back on topic, I would love MLT to have a role to play in the current set up, as for me he is up there in the top bracket of Saints legends alongside Paine, Channon, Lawrie etc. However, it's simply not going to happen unless one (or both?) offer an olive branch and put all their ill feelings behind them. Is there someone with a feet in both camps who could bring this about (maybe something for Elvis in his new role as President?). And have to say I do also find the "mong" comments offensive and of course unnecessary. Just as I would deem it offensive calling another "downy".

It must be something about the football industry as Lowe is not alone in allowing his ego to go in to overdrive!!!! Over the years, English football has been littered with people who have somehow allowed their ego to rule their brain. Is it the high profile of the game, the money involved (but that's only a relatively newish feature and egos were wild in the 70s & 80s), the fact that stars aren't the bosses, the media interest????? I'd agree with you in that Lowe's early years saw some good developments and he dragged us in to the 21st century (straight from the 19th century given some of our set up at The Dell) with able support from Cowen. But then his ego and his desire to be seen as a mould breaker meant he lost the plot somewhat.

My dad was well chuffed with this, as Paine (along with John Sydenham) was his hero. I never managed to see Paine play for Saints as my first game was October 1974, but he is up there as one of our all time legends, so he's an ideal candidate for the role.

Im afraid I'm too honest to make the lead leak, so will have to get someone in and at for it rather than scamming it for free. So are you saying Southern Water did the whole job for you for £200????? If so, I'm up for that. Did it take long for them to sort out????