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Would love to see what she has to say to those points....

I say unfreeze the bank accounts. Let them have their access, which they blame non payment on. After all, Admin Andy has been telling the world since before Xmas that they have a 'cash flow' problem until a new buyer is found. What are the chances that a club that has had a cash flow issue since November is actually going to have anything tucked away in a bank account, let alone 3 or 4 million quid! Having the bank accounts frozen is just giving them another excuse not to pay. If I were HMRC I'd go to the validation hearing and say 'no, your honour, no problem at all in allowing them to have access to their bank accounts, after all, they'll then be able to pay us what we're owed'. Call their bluff and stop giving the DFCSBs excuses! We all know they won't be able to pay, then HMRC will have even more ammunition for the WUP on the 20th - 'we let them have access to their bank accounts and they still couldn't pay the bill, insolvent m'lud'.

Of course they do! They don't own it, so why would the toilets not be in perfect working order? I suspect though, that having the toilets serviced and stocked would be part of their rental agreement. One can only assume that if he who shall not be named is going to Asda to get bog roll, then they haven't paid their rent

Don't worry, Comfy Chair got that one answered for you

They really are inbred retards Half the 'fans' are moaning about HMRC for 'picking on' them by issuing a WUP so soon after they defaulted. then you get morons like Steve the **** asking how HMRC let them build up the debt! The level of understanding - or not - down there is immense!

Not a shame at all Any court that decides the club are trading whilst insolvent and the debt can be claimed from Lumpitt Excellent news indeed as finally one of the dodgy people in charge of the club could get their comeuppance. So, PFC123, still think things are looking rosey and that 'you'll be fine' - or fined

Problem with the points?

You seem to be forgetting.... Bonus = £1m - to be paid by tax payer Tax @ 50% = £500k - to be taken by HMRC NI @ 10% = £100k - to be taken by HMRC Therefore net cost to taxpayer = £400k, puts a bit of perspective on things

Not sure that Chainrai is even an option now. In the past he has leant them money [lol @ ludicrous interest rates], but he has ALWAYS been able to secure his loans against assets [sic]. Two problems with that now, they don't have any assets left to secure against and even if they did a charge cannot be registered over them now the WUP has been issued and the case heard. That means Chinny would have to lend them the money and hope he gets it back one day. He's not stupid, so that isn't going to happen, which would explain why AA has gone on record stating he won't be helping out! So that just leaves : 1. Wealthy lunatic that's got money to throw away - haven't seen many of them! 2. WUP becomes WUO = toast. 3. FL advance them more money to pay off HMRC, which will leave them short of cash in a week / month or two = toast.

Just a thought, but didn't the 'Arry trial get put back a couple of times? Anyone willing to bet the Spuds chairman had a hand in that to make sure 'Arry was otherwise engaged during the transfer window, to protect his bank balance?

Because it's around £160k 'invested' in Monaco isn't it? Therefore someone who earnt £1.5m like 'Arry did at Pompey will be paying the higher rate plus NI on top, so it's closer to £80k than £30k. Greed, pure and simple.

A 'F**k you and F**K this F**k*ng forum' comment would fit in nicely here - Sorry Panny, couldn't resist

Or..... The defence is pretty poor, and will last about half an hour! There's only so many times you can say "'e din't do it guv"

I suspect the £20m will now be needed by Tesco to pay Gaydy the ransom for all the land surrounding FP - since he owns it and you don't! If there's £3m or so left over, I guess they'll have to give that to Chinny to buy FP itself, as again, that isn't an asset that PFC own. Please feel free to enlighten us about this expose that the tabloids are going to run as I can't see any sign of it anywhere. I even had a look on POL and could find no reference to it there - you do keep telling us that the good folk on POL ALWAYS find stuff before us don't you, so you'd expect to see it there at the very least. Go ahead and let us know exactly what it is, it could be your fist ever 'scoop'. As for the players, I'm sure they're all happy to sit on the highly inflated wages you pay them and bleed the club dry, knowing that if you default on their wages and the club goes pop, then the PFA will pay them the money owed - I guess the PFA would just apply to the PL for the parachute payments that you won't get! After that they become free agents, where they will probably get a new contract on lower wages, but will be able to negotiate a much better signing on fee because of it. Win, win, win for them, so why would they go elsewhere?

To be fair, it's a good thing that they've paid their tax bill [allegedly]. After all, that pays for schools, hospitals etc. What it also means - if true - is that there is no sign of a buyer, as there is no way chinny would cough up the cash if there were someone waiting in the wings So, just the £1.6m wage bill to fund at the end of this month, then another £800k NI and PAYE a few days after that It's all looking rosie again for the skates

Would that be the same person as 'PompeyScott' from pompeyonline? Surely having the LEAST tolerant person in the world will only be a benefit and bring lots of positives to their club! If you don't know what I'm on about just try registering on pompey online using your current user name and see just how quickly you get b-anned! Say what you want about steve and Boj, but at least they are tolerant of the phew that register here and allow them to put their opinions across whether they are popular ones, deluded or downright wacky - Mak usually posts those to be fair! - not like that on POL!

My prediction : The DCFSBs will avoid the WUP - I reckon the FL will advance them the parachute payments. Everything will be rosie until April when the first [sic] CVA payment is due. Don't worry about that, AA will just change the timescales again and they won't have to pay any money for another 12 months - and he still won't have broken any rules as the numpties agreed to it in the first place! They'll then have some more 'sticky' patches over the summer when wages are due, but the FL will give them the remainder of the parachute payments - they'll then spunk the lot on more players and high wages. It'll get interesting around this time next year when they have no parachute payments left to spend, and the wages will be due for payment - forget about the CVA as it's irrelevant. AA will just keep moving those goalposts until the eventually don't pay it in about 5 years time, and get hit with a paltry -10 points. I'm sure they'll happily swap five years and £17m for -10 points! Sadly, much as I'd love them to be toast, the FL rules and regs are so crap that AA can find away round them each and every time - he's probably already working on the reasons why they should receive the final parachute payment next summer!! It makes a mockery of football and clubs trying to do things 'the right way', but I think more and more clubs will start to push the boundaries because they've seen how the rules can be massaged to avoid any sort of penalty from the FL. Eventually the FL will tighten things up, but not before they've been mugged off by a number of clubs!

Perhaps the Corpse should read that. It might help quell his myth about credit crunch and bank shares or whatever it is he's blaming for the gun runner running out of money.

Even more telling from the same piece : So, clumpitt, how is that management between you and HMRC coming along? Looks to me like they're ignoring every plea you're making to them and going ahead with what they believe is right and just. Apparently an old dog can learn new tricks, as didn't they wait until you owed them £30 something million last time before they started the process? Looks like they're not falling for the same old spin and b0IIocks this time

How, and why is this allowed to happen??? This is the question the skates should be demanding of the FL - the ones that are monitoring things oh so closely Spending money you haven't got is the issue once again.

I do love PFC 123s predictions. Oh, how he has such a success rate - this little nugget from June this year - he tells us back then that they'll be fine. Absolutely nothing wrong with the then new owners, everything hunky dory, nothing to see here Every time he posts that all is rosy in the garden, something catastrophic happens. Let's hope he stays true to form http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?14620-Pompey-Takeover-Saga&p=1076544#post1076544

I'm sure 'Arry's recent 'heart' problems will ensure that the beak doesn't give him bird. Not that I'm suggesting that was a conveniently times heart scare of course I suspect a slap on the wrist and a large fine - which no doubt Milan would take care of. The only interesting thing is the Storrie teller's spanner in the works - did he really turn Queen's????

That is EXACTLY how I read it too. Having the WUP means they cannot sell players or the club - I guess they could get around that by selling CSI and thus the club with it. But, they can't enter Voluntary Company Liquidation, and I'm guessing they can't put the club into admin now, but even if they do, then HMRC will be the biggest creditor, so gaining a CVA would mean they would have to agree to pay HMRC 100% of the debt + costs. I guess they could only guarantee they could do this by getting another new owner with lots of cash to burn. As for the Android stating that he thinks there may be a court date scheduled for the end of Feb, I read somewhere that there was one in place for next weds - can't remember where I read it though so no link. Either way it's time to Pay Up Pompey or Wind Up Pompey

That is all completely irrelevant now By receiving a WUP from HMRC the club has now had its very own insolvency event which the FL cannot ignore. Frankly, I think HMRC has learnt from its previous mistakes, and has played a patient waiting game - it could have issued the WUP once they missed the first £800k payment, but waited until they missed the second. This means they are the ONLY creditor of any note, thanks to chinny, who took his charge out on CSI and not Pompey, so he isn't a creditor of Pompey this time round. They also waited until the players were paid so at the time of the insolvency event there were absolutely NO secured creditors - I doubt very much that the £10.8m loaned by the bank robber was secured on anything, well nothing that doesn't already have a secure charge on it by someone else! So, bring on the points deduction, followed by a winding up of the club, a late Xmas pressie

Can you start by reporting Phil for babbling more than a brook? Take his last post, I understand the words when read individually, but when he clumps them altogether to make his 'sentences' [sic], I have completely lost the ability to comprehend. That has to be a crime, right?