Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan

The real issue on this thread seems to be the assumption we only have a remaining game, not games plural. Is this ITK, will this winter break last longer than we realise. Edge of the seat stuff it really is

I thought similar about Lyanco at Wolves, he hurts himself making a clearance and waves at the ref clutching his neck but stood up, the game plays on and Traore scores by being in the exact position Lyanco should be, but by then he has gone down. If he drops like a sack when the ball leaves his head the game is stopped and Wolves don't score. We still would have lost 2-1 but stopping them on the counter attack at that point might have helped!

What if we sign him and he goes full Saganowski...

Such a bizarre mix of players in that squad, but an absolutely brilliant result, up there in terms of Molyneux memories with Lundekvam scoring past Paul Jones! Looking at what that squad has gone on to do is very interesting (to me at least...) Bialkowski- made another 350 appearances in the Championship and League 1 and is still going Ostlund- played 8 more professional games after leaving us then retired Pele- ended up at AFC Totton Powell- wound down his career after leaving us Makin- retired the following season Guthire- playing in the second division in Iceland currently Wright- only played 3 more professional games after leaving us Skacel- played for 9 more clubs and was an international for Czech Republic Surman- played most of his career in the premier league Best- played in the premier league for Newcastle but then found his level below that Saganowski- played at Euro 2008 for Poland BWP- NY Red Bull's highest scorer and one of the top strikers in the MLS for best part of a decade Dyer- Won the league with Leicester and made a good career of it at Swansea Licka- Still playing in Czech Republic, and was an international for them like Skacel. I wonder where Saturday's team will all end up, hopefully most better than this lot.

Wood and Digne both confirmed. Looks like Targett will be a back-up there now, wonder if he'll try and get a move

He signed for them 3 days ago, what exactly would you expect him to do in that time?

That would certainly start skewing the goal difference if the same approach was taken in football. What if both teams cannot fulfil the fixture, a 48-48 draw?

I thought JWP was good, and seemed fairly good against West Ham too. In both games he had an extra player behind him, due to using the 3-5-2 or 4-1-4-1 formations, so I wonder if that makes a difference in allowing him the ball slightly higher up the pitch. KWP was back to the player he was last year. Valery looked good, probably one of his best games for the club

Well if they follow Saints on social media, or they’re watching a stream of the coverage where the warmup is shown they would see it yes. You’ve posted many times about how often Saints post about Pride so it must be noticeable… The group is inclusive for LGBTQ+ individuals who football has historically excluded (yes I’m sure you’ve got a gay mate whose got on fine all the time but your one experience isn’t true for all. Inclusivity can be subjective on context Thankfully I sit in the family end where I’ve not personally heard much abuse at any games I’ve gone to this season, but I’ve heard Djenepo be called some racist things in the past. Hope the wait wasn’t too long for you there x

The premier league is a global brand, as are Saints. There will be people who see those photos in countries where being LGBTQ+ is still criminalised or prejudiced and see that in some societies it is accepted. It also sparks conversations, like this one... To your second question; joining a supporters group gives them a chance to meet others, and chat with them. In the same way you are a member of this forum to talk about Saints, they have a group where they have things in common. Again, there is a difference between things that people don't like, and homophobic and racist abuse.

You've missed the point I'm making entirely. There are 2 things being discussed on this thread, initially it was the rainbow shirt and the mural, now it is the supporters group. I'll break it down for you so you can understand. 1. The Rainbow shirt/Mural: the aim of these are to raise awareness of the issue of homophobia in football and the club's stand. This is to educate, and aim to minimise homophobia. It may be impossible to eradicate abuse, but to limit it is still worth trying. Also, just because you think people are aware homophobia is bad, doesn't mean all do, nor do they necessarily grasp what can be deemed as homophobic. 2. The supporters group. As I said above, this is a group where they can discuss any concerns, form a bond with other fans, and feel included. This will have absolutely no impact on the fans who already attend games or feel included, but will open a potential door for those who currently might have the above concerns. This isn't just about people literally sat in the ground (although that is a part of it) nor does it require people outside of the group to know they are LGBT. Your final sentence is the biggest red flag for me. To you, it is "something they don't like", but to others it is homophobic or racist abuse. Some of your posts on here I completely agree with (normally the football related chat) but it always seems that you have an issue with anti-racist or anti-homophobic efforts. That doesn't make you a racist or a homophobe, but I do think you might look back and wonder if you were on the right side of the debate.

I'm not LGBT, so not speaking from experience, but I would assume the fears involve being surrounded by homophobic abuse, not feeling comfortable and generally feeling excluded. Football crowds are rife with toxic masculinity remember. Consistently the view of many on here (yourself included) have been that going to games alone is fine because you've done it, and if your experience was fine then theirs must be too. I could easily go to games alone, because I've been to many with others, so I know where I would want to sit, what time to arrive, when to stand and shout and when to be quiet. If I didn't have that experience I would be very nervous about going to games, so I would want to find a supporters group of like-minded individuals to give me the answers and maybe offer to go together. The LGBTQ+ supporters group offers that, it is a safe space (not physical, its not like they're going to take over a section of the stadium, although that seems to be some people's worries...) where they can discuss any such concerns, form a bond with other fans, and feel included. This will have absolutely no impact on the fans who already attend games or feel included, but will open a potential door for those who currently might have the above concerns. The work to be done is the removal of homophobic chanting where possible, by educating those where such education never occurred, highlighting to individuals that certain phrases that have previously been seen as fine, would actually offend people, and by banning those who are openly homophobic in the stadium. Sadly homophobia doesn't appear to be something that can easily be entirely eradicated, as also goes for racism, but an attempt to limit it and to make everyone feel as welcome as a supporter of the club is worthwhile.

It seems the thing he is putting on the end of it is posh blondes with very little sense or taste in men...

Regarding the first point, death in homelessness is a really difficult statistic to track. If anyone is interested I would thoroughly recommend the book "No fixed abode" by Maeve McClenaghan but expect a few tears while reading it. Well done on trying to speak some sense to this fool, but be prepared for it to fall on deaf ears. He has previously said that the pandemic isn't real, so that gives an indicator of the level of understanding.

For me the team depends on fitness after last night. Livramento looks like he could do with a rest (or just 60 minutes), Bednarek went off injured so will need to hear why, and Tella looked like he had a problem with a muscle in the first half. If none of them are up to 100% by the weekend I would start with the below, but with Broja ready to come on after 60 -----------Mccarthy KWP--Lyanco---Salisu---Perraud Redmond-JWP-Romeu-Elyounoussi --------Adams----Armstrong

Agreed re: the atmosphere, it did get going towards the end again, but equally it felt inevitable we would lose once they equalised so hard to stay in good spirits. Chap sat near me spent most of the second half trying to get the people around to join in with chants and frequently stood up and called us all boring c*nts. He promptly left at 85 minute... Frustrating because we looked so good at times, getting the ball quickly up to the front 4 (whose interchanging of position was really good) but we always seemed to pick the wrong pass or run the ball into trouble. Think we need someone playing down the left with a left foot to offer overlaps, each time Tella, Armstrong, Adams or KWP had the ball in the half space on the edge of the box it was very obvious they would be cutting in on their right foot, and every time a Leicester player would be their to slow it down or block.

What is it then? To me it looks exactly like a supporters group, for people who want to meet other LGBTQ+ Saints fans. Really don't see the issue with this, a lot of the posts on here are scarily backwards

With our current squad, and budget, and approach to new signings, who could we actually attract as a manager who would be in a better position than Ralph?

Liverpool's right back that day a certain Jon Otsemobor who went on to play 19 games for us in league one!

Tessem, Lundekvam and Dodd were all in Chandlers Ford at points in the early 2000's. The club have a couple of flats in Ocean Village and now also apartments at the Harbour Hotel for players when they initially are settling in. Djenepo was there for a while (might still be) and Lyanco is. Tadic also was there initially when he joined us. Hasenhuttl used to be there too, but I think I read somewhere he's out in the Forest now.

St Marys is actually hosting 3 matches for the Women's Euros Norway v Northern Ireland (8pm on Thursday 7th July) Austria v Northern Ireland (5pm on Monday 11th July) Northern Ireland v England (8pm on Friday 15th July) Tickets between £10 and £40 for adults depending on seats and matches. I've put in for the 2 8pm games

I didn't say he should be forced to explain, I just think that it would help. If he is not wanting to take part because he is a racist and hates other ethnicities then that is clearly an issue that needs addressing. If he is doing it because he wishes to commit to the cause of anti-racism with a separate gesture or by supporting other foundations or charities then that is much easier to take. Why does it matter so much to you that he is being told to make an anti-racist gesture for 3 seconds before a match of cricket? it is hardly an act of horrific submission by the players to their totalitarian overlords, and more a reasonable action to be taken by players in the public eye when the same gesture is being performed by other teams and in other sports.

Difficult one to judge re De Kock, because the news seems to be reporting it in a number of different ways. Some suggest he was dropped for refusing to take the knee, others suggest he chose not to play. Before their match against Australia only half the team took the knee, the rest stood with a raised fist or hands behind their back and those players haven't been dropped or walked. South Africa does obviously have a history of racial issues and tensions that still do impact it as a nation, so it is understandable that that they would want their players to make a united gesture against racism, but it shouldn't be forced upon individuals. As always I think the issue comes down to why he didn't want to make the gesture, which at the moment he is citing as personal to him. Not a good look for Cricket SA either way

Wouldn't have to worry about his distribution then either, if he has no-one to pass to

In Summary: For this one game, we didn't miss JWP and performed well. Romeu and Diallo operated as a good and balanced midfield, both making the blocks, tackles and interceptions expected of them and an average amount of progressive passes. Diallo looks like a good midfielder who we are lucky to have as our first back-up. He still has more chances before JWP returns to prove that he shouldn't automatically take Diallo's spot, but I would expect JWP to return to the first 11 as one of our best players. JWP is our captain and a long-serving player whose attitude and ability should mean he is a first choice midfielder. Regarding Broja, he looks a real talent, who deserves a run in the team given he will now be full of confidence. I would like him partnered with either Armstrong or Adams though. Armstrong looks like a natural finisher, who will get a decent return of goals in almost any team. Again, like the midfielders, we are in a good position where we have 3 genuine options for 2 positions. Regarding Diallo's block, he does well to be back in position, and looks as though he means the ball to go to Djenepo. That is a good defensive action, that regains controlled possession. Djenepo then converts that into a counter-attack with his movement before releasing Redmond excellently, who in turn produces good pace and movement.