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You just don't know if any of that happened.

Its all manoeuvring by each party, the press is just used by everyone as part of their game plan. Not every thing you hear even the direct quotes actually reflects the truth.

Age has nothing to do with intent. Anyway they may see some worth in having a player that isn't going to **** off the first time some big club **** says you should play for us when they are walking off the pitch .

And he's still more interesting than you.

Players don't buy into visions, they come because the deal is right and if you happen to be a team that on the up even better.

The club has very few levers in these situations to make things happen. The player controls the situation, the club has a choice between selling him to the highest bidder to a club that the player is happy to go to or keep him and risk him not signing a new contract and walking next summer. Personally i think that the threat of not playing him will have no bearing on the situation. Clyne will do what he wants, if he wants to run down his contract he will, he may decide that a move is his best option if the deal is good. If the money is good at Liverpool then Clyne will end up there, he may wait for United to show an interest but not to the point where he scuppers the Liverpool deal.

Why is everyone having a go at this fella all of a sudden. Redslo have you thought about taking your wares to somewhere else like http://itsbeautifuloutside.proboards.com/board/3/main-board

It's not though; you can't banish a player to train indefinitely with the kids, there is contractual issues over that, that was one of the reasons why Cortese and Puncheon kissed and made up. You could of course just not pick him for the first team, but then you have a disgruntled player training with the first team being a distruptive influence. So you can't have that either. So there is no threat there, we are better of getting as much money as possible for him now. It's a long transfer window, if I were dealing with it I would wait as long as it takes to get the figure I was happy with.

Bloke sharing info getting rounded on by forum saddos, ahhh the transfer window must be open.

It's a list compiled by statisticians Blimey Leyton Orient have some good players wanting to leave.

It's only £25, its a round in the pub, a couple of McDonalds family meals, one trainer, a month of mags.

FFS everyone who thinks they know a footballers says this.

Or another voluntary way for people to financially support their club and feel connected with their club and people knock them for it.

or somewhere in between.

You are so cool.

he will only moan that we were too hasty and unprofessional.

The Cup Final that's won by the favourite 75% of the time.

You are going to have a job on your hands keeping your son out of the clutches of the Manchester clubs. I have a four year old and live in West Kent, surrounded by Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and West Ham fans; I've got him to be a Saints fan but I never relax, I keep ramming it home.

Yes but people weren't saying he's terrible but let's see how he settles in ths new league first. People were saying he's terrible.

Apparently so, Liverpool won the chase to sign him over Arsenal. That's how **** he is. He is so **** despite the Man City millions he has been a fixture in their side for the last five season and has racked up 11 seasons of 35 plus games in the premier league. Yeah he's ****.

No set of supporters love another club, its ludicrous to suggest such a thing.

Well done Bournemouth, listened all night on 5live it was brilliant.

I was sat behind the dug out yesterday and he was really ****ed off with himself when he came off. He knows he should have scored.

Surely we should be talking about people in absolute terms not in terms of what their skills level is in relation to their fee. It's seems that a lot of people would be happy with his performances if he cost £5m, but aren't happy because he cost £10m. His performances should be judge on their own not relation to his price tag.

Isnt that what killed Michael Jackson.