Fan The Flames

You want to direct that fiestiness to your wife, she might let you get your new flooring.

Yes you are, that's what you do. My simple point is that public opinion is generally years ahead of governance, abortion, divorce, gay marriage. Public health is probably the area where people have to be dragged along, smoking, obesity, drinking and thats why its differicult to change things in this area. I'll give you one law, online anonymity I would love that to change, says the bloke not actually called Fan the Flames.

You are right, the hard left don't mind doing a bit of intimidation.

The book that had sections removed for its second run because they were inaccurate and the publisher had to apologise. The book may be accurate, it may not, who knows.

Of course the range of views on anything is more nuanced then one camp or another, there are countless points between x and y. If things are nuanced then it's a given that they are fluid. By saying it could be counterproductive you are agreeing that the act can have a negative affect, if that's the case it must also be able to have a positive affect. I still can't see why people are annoyed by it, it's like getting annoyed by Pudsey. Anyway we will have to agree to disagree.

Well if you consider opinions on a subject are on a spectrum, then if these opinions are influenced then some people will shift along the spectrum. It's quite simple really. It's a given fact that attitudes on millions of things have changed over time, like the EU was just a topic for pub bores like Lord D ten years ago now everyone has an opinion on it. That didn't come out of no where, but by groups lobbying and using social media to shift people along the opinion arc. We are bombarded by messages, some relevant, some not and most people just ignore the irrelevant ones. So what's the problem with this message that has got so many people wound up. Are some messages are not allowed, or some groups not allowed to make them. Is it right that people can't ask for change because it may trigger others to act in a worse way. If like everyone on this thread thinks that racism is wrong, then what really is the problem here. It's just kneeling, it's just a message, it's no big deal. If the message means nothing to you that's fine, just let it be.

All we need now is Lord D and the whole gang is here.

How do you think things move forward? They do by influencing public opinions, law changes are normally years after and always on catch up.

Grows some balls and get someone in, the wife will like the new manly you.

Point of order bruv, they are not my words, you've cocked up your quoting.

It highlights the issue and instigates conversations. So in my opinion it's working. That may make some people double down and provoke incidents, but one would suspect that they are the higher hanging fruits.

What's your evidence for this.

Just joining in the random shouting from one side to the other.

Ban the poppy at football matches.

I could see it when my subscription ran out, but couldn't see it again after I renewed my subscription.

At least the winters are a bit warmer nowadays.

It wasn't funny on that thread either.

I consider that as you losing the argument, again. Why don't you bore us some more with who has and hasn't got you on ignore, Soggys muslim barber, your black best friend and various tales of woke madness.

What about grown men going on about it all the time.

So BJ is working from home all this week and home is Zac Goldsmiths villa in Spain.

Anti-vaxers are just sheep, being told what to think and do by social media.

Southampton...no shitter than other cities* *in a poll of 38 people when rated with cities of a comparable size and socio-economic make up.

It really isn't a shit hole, it's a standard city with nice areas and some not so nice, like most cities.

Yes, Glen Cockeril got the first and Steve Moran. It was a straightforward win. Our fans were impressive.

World wide world cup qualifiers would be really good, a logistical challenge that may be difficult to overcome in terms of the football calender. Also we have a federal governance structure, with all of them rightly wanting to promote their own region in terms of number of their number of world cup places. So in this climate change of this nature isn't likely to happen anytime soon. It would be more interesting and fairer and the Europeans and South Americans could prove that they deserve their number of places that they get.