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You're going to be disappointed. Most of Britain's economic growth is the result of a rising population. GDP per capita is barely changing. Its no better than France and worse than most of the EU. Leaving will make it worse.

Its not 'illegal' in a criminal sense - but the PL is a private members club and makes its own rules. If one club makes an agreement with another and then attempts to break it there will be sanctions, presumably including the Pl refusing to sanction the transfer.

Congratulations. You post up two scare stories for debate and then say the scare tactics have turned the electorate off. You're right.

The whole campaign on both sides is a charade of scare stories

Still wrong Wes. I'm amazed you still haven't learned after all these years to check original source data, not newspaper reports of it. You dont appear to have read the Open Democracy piece. Here it is - they only claim EU employees are over 50,000. http://openeuropeblog.blogspot.co.uk/2007/01/how-many-people-work-for-eu.html Like the report you are - probably deliberately but perhaps through ignorance - confusing civil servants employed directly by the EC and people working for agencies providing services to the EU. Its the difference between working for Whitehall and working for the 1,162 British public service providers like the National Lottery, English Heritage, BBC and the Met Office. The European equivalents are the European Medicines Agency based in London, European Environment Agency based in Copenhagen and the European Food Safety Authority based in Parma and the European Aviation Safety Authority based in Cologne. . Which of those is useless bureaucracy Wes? 5,358,000 people work for the British Government whilst the very worst (and almost certainly wrong) figure for the EU you could find was 50,000 in total across 28 countries. Im glad you post up your Express EU bogeyman myths. Its gives everybody an opportunity to see how vacuous and utterly intellectually bankrupt they are. http://openeuropeblog.blogspot.co.uk/2007/01/how-many-people-work-for-eu.html http://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/publicsectorpersonnel/bulletins/publicsectoremployment/2015-09-16 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfwbuTtE5HX1Ltbm7XhxIAjFVj6oHB07KF7A8fhXloY/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

Which one would you prefer?

Is that you Eva?

Chiropodist's seat

Well done Wes. You posted up a link to an 8 year old newspaper article about a report which is no longer available. Makes it hard to fact check, which presumably is the intention. You are certainly on top of this 'fact' game. As that article says the 32,000 number refers to the EU civil servants working in the commission - the nasty pen pushers who spend all our money on gold plated pensions. For comparison Britain's civil service employs 402,000 while our 'share' of EU bureaucrats based on population is c6,400. I wonder where the most potential for waste is? https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/publicsectorpersonnel/bulletins/civilservicestatistics/2015-10-08

If true then it suggests RK has accepted he isnt going to get Forster. Maybe the no poaching clause has been signed and the dam unblocked.

Scooby

Belgium

tbf thats one of the least credible bits. If you've ever seen him in an interview colloquialisms like that just dont fit with him, someone who speaks English as a fourth language. 'Chapeau cul' maybe

you missed out the 'w'

Wes isnt keen on facts, they interfere with the views he wants to hold. Tell him the entire EU employs fewer people than Leeds City Council he will tell you that yes but we get to decide on how that money is spent. The fact he gets a say in Brussels expenditure but not Leeds will be irrelevant.

Its in the Express innit?

People often say that but its simply not true. Lots of people turn down more money because the new job would lower their quality of life not increase it. As MLT himself once said "why would I leave. Ive got a 4 bed detached house, two cars and if I retire at 30 I'll never have to work again" - and that was before the PL mega wages. Does anyone really think £150,000pw is going to buy you more happiness than £70,000pw? Sure some players are greedy and some have a philanthropic bent / big extended family to support but many will just say nah im okay,thanks. I like my house / children's school and friends / not having to relocate every two years etc.

Echos what was said here a couple of weeks ago by a poster after a conversation with Erwin. Everton was supposed to be a bargaining chip but its "all gone tits up".

Dont disagree with most of that. I dont think you can have a single exchange rate across countries unless you have full fiscal union - and most countries dont want that.

Seems that way. They've been linked in the media with two or three already

The 'no poaching' clause seems to be the sticking point. I imagine Saints are playing hardball by suggesting they wont let Koeman go unless Everton agree to the clause. Seems fair and reasonable to me.

Is that revisonism or lack of knowledge? There was a recession in the early 1990s caused by sky high interest rates which were made necessary by Soros and others betting against the pound. It was the reduction in interest rates from 14.5% which caused the boom not the exchange rate

So a transfer of wealth from the individual to corporations is a good thing? What a Tory attitude.

I know how much imported food I buy. Unfortunately I don't export any cars to offset the increased costs.

Nah. Ron and Les are on holiday, apparently with no TV, internet or courier services.