Matthew Le God

Not true, you either believe in an intervening god(theism) or you don't (atheism). There is no third option, you are one or the other.

Thread title is 'Your past their best Saints XI' Criteria in opening post... 'either through age or injuries' Age and injuries was the reason Ball was not at his best when at Saints. - Ball broke his leg in 1974 - He joined Saints in 1976

I'm not denying he was a very good player for Saints, just that his best was at Everton/Arsenal.

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The thread title is 'past their best', not 'past it'. If Ball was at his best at Saints... why wasn't he playing for England? He dropped down to the 2nd tier to play for us, players at their peak don't do that.

I'm not saying he wasn't a great signing for Saints. But the thread asks for those that were past their best at Saints. His last England cap was in 1975 and he joined Saints in 1976 in the 2nd tier as a 31 year old, his peak was at Everton/Arsenal.

Alan Ball

The UK does not have a written constitution.

One of the most successful managers of all time...

Still waiting...

We need food, that requires labour to pick it. Farmers need 70,000 workers to feed the nation or millions of tonnes of food will go to waste during a national crisis. They are being quarantined and put in small working teams in hostel accommodation. Stupidity would be letting food grown in this country not feed this country.

1) Concessions? No, you just misunderstood what I said and kept saying I said something I didn't. 2) They had a moral code from god in the Bible that included stoning to death disobedient children. They have now created their own moral code. No need to turn to god for a moral code if you re-write his!

It is not three choices... atheism, agnosticism or theism. Everyone is either a theist or an atheist. Agnosticism is a sub-set of atheism. If someone believe in invisible pink unicorns and they didn't have evidence, would you think they were idiots?

It is not merely an opinion... it is fact. If Christians have decided in the 21st century not to stone to death disobedient children then that is a rewriting of the 10 commandments from the book at the foundation of the religion.

'So sure'? No, atheism is not the claim there are no gods. It is the rejection of theist claims. That is not the same thing.

Read the post again.

The problem came from you imagining me saying something I didn't. Yes But only because modern Chrisitians are creating their own moral code and ignoring the moral code of god in the Bible. As they are creating their own moral code... they don't need god.

An inept god who knows the future created a universe that ****ed up, so he decided to start again and created a global flood to commit a genocide. Please explain why that summary is wrong?

What is your point? There are horrifically bad ideas in both the old and new testament.

Yes But they are not following the foundation of their religion... because the Bible does endorse those things. So the priest is making up their own moral god which is better than the character of god.

What would someone be if they called someone an idiot for saying something they did not say? Because I did not use the word 'promote'!

I didn't use the word promote, you claim I did... but I didn't. But the heart of the releigion they preech is the Bible... and the Bible endorses genocide, slavery, sexism, homophobia etc. If the priest chooses not to endorse them then good... they are better than the god describe in the Bible... because the character of god in the Bible does endorse those things! At no point did I say in 2020 churches in England endorse those things... those churches have decided to ignore the bad parts in their horrific holy book and are going against the character of god's wishes.

This is hard work! The global flood genocide 100% proves that the character of god in the Bible is not 100% kind and loving towards humans in the story. If he was 100% kind and loving he wouldn't drown the world's population in a flood!

He is making up his own moral code if he doesn't use the one outlined in the Bible. If his god existed... wouldn't god be annoyed the priest is ignoring the moral code in the Bible and creating his own?