VectisSaint

Someone else? You mean MLT.

Have I missed a league game, or are we only playing 45 this season?

Clearly you have not read the book. The bloke does not like a bet, thats the whole point. He says this was the one and only time. It is also quite clear from the book that Matt was involved but he was only one of those involved, seemingly everyone but Shipps. Purely coincidentally I read this chapter last night. This is a non-issue, it is not match-fixing (putting a ball out for a throw does not constitute match fixing), and just highlights what stupid things Bookies do to try to make money (and that there are stupid people who place bets on this). What people should be more concerned about is whether there are still stupid things like this going on, I suspect from what little I know that there aren't, although I was surprised when talking to a guy working on my house recently some of the bets that can be placed while a game is in progress, and the seemingly easy ways to make money. I dislike intensely this whole betting culture with regard to football/spread bets but anyone who thinks that MLT is tainted because of this one silly event many years ago clearly is barking.

The game is at St Marys

Here Waigo, here Waigo, here Waigo...

You've been peeping in the showers again Is Molyneaux still at Saints, I thought he went on loan or on trial?

Today is only special if you are taken in by the Sky hype. It is only a big deal for Premiership clubs. Signing out of contract players can continue at any time, and it would seem there are plenty in that situation, and signing loans can start again next Monday for FL clubs. On the positive side apart from Poke going on loan (whcih is good for him and good for Torquay), at least no-one left. So we still have Spiderman, Saga, Gillett and Holmes (and Lallana but I was trying to be positive) all of whom were rumoured to be on their way out.

Has Skacel signed yet?

Didn't have to be done by today, he is a free agent I believe so can be signed anytime, as long as no-one else has snapped him up. Wouldn't be surprised to see some loanees coming in as well. The problem with Deadline day is that it is something hyped up by Sky to boost ratings, in practice the deadline day only really applies to the Premier****. The emergency loan system allows signings to continue and this is when you will see Prem teams loaning out their fringe players.

You do realise he is nearly 24 don't you? A bit old for the Academy. I don't think being in the Reserves at that age is very promising either, unless it is for match fitness. Not an excuse, and I didn't see him, but its always more difficult to come on as a sub late on and play accurate passes, especially as it was unexpected (due to an injry rather than tactical). Better to judge on full games. In the past he has looked more than capable, but it seems Pardew thinks a bit like the OP and isn't seeing the player that we saw last season on occassions. He still seems to me to be more suited to this division, but needs to up his game if he is to succeed.

Check out when our manager was WGS. Its not a given, only with the hopeless coaches we have had since the wee man left (and the lack of time AP has had to put a full fitness regime in place, I am not branding him hopeless, that tag is meant for Burley and Agents Orange). It is to do with fitness, that extra fitness that means the players do not lose concentration until the 97 minutes are up. WGS ensured this was covered by his preseason stamina training in the dunes up north and the runs in the Forest.

Missed the point then...

or even after the window closes, the "emergency" loan system doesn't end on Monday.

Why? Brum are better than the Skates

A Met spokesman said: "There has been some trouble and disorder from Millwall and Wet Ham fans - officers are reacting to the violence." Riot Police must be using water cannons

Hi Ho Silver Sorry, thought you said Wotton was the lone ranger

Never mind lad, you gave it your best shot, just always remember to hold your head up

They/ve not really been given too much opportunity. What was it 10 minutes for Ras and 5 for Saga against Swindon. I don't believe Saga actually touched the ball. OK Saga got more time against Brentford but its difficult to score goals from the bench

Not missing anything. There is a lot of bull being talked, and for every instance to back an argument there is an equally compelling example against. Norwich have almost as much turmoil as us (not quite I agree) but seem to have turned the corner again with new man in charge for first game. It is also difficult to say that the current team is used to losing. 5 new players were in yesterday, only James, Perry, Spiderman, Lallana and of course Davis were regulars last term, so are you saying that the lack of confidence is down to the 5 players? Spiderman is used to winning with France u21 as well. The only players I think lack confidence is James (on Swindon showing). Lallana is over confident. I know things will take a while to click but even with all of our problems 2 points from 12 is pathetic for a club of our standing and with the players that we have. You can blame it on pshychology and bury your head in the sand or you can be realistic and say its not good enough yet.

Charlton Athletic's lack of confidence is plain for all to see.

Not so, SCW had no credibility with HR, who undermined everything that SCW wanted to do. As a decent young footballer himself (though not as good as HR of course) he did have some credibility with players, but dinosaurs tend not to like change and of course like many people resist if they perceive that their job is under threat. SCW could have been good for us, but the timing of his appointment was a joke. Of course the biggest mistake SCW did make was introducing the Brazilian Soccer school **** who has no credibility with anyone other than his own ego (I can't even be bothered to remember his name) Referring the OP's reference to sideways passing, I don't recall SCW ever having been credited with affecting our style of play. I guess therefore that it was simply a hunourous reference to the requirment to pass backwards in rugby and not his influence on our tactics.

So would you have got rid of Davis? As I wasn't at the game today I can't comment, but on the evidence of what I saw last Tuesday, he is part of the problem. Great shot stopper and clearly has kept us in games so far, but still maintain his nervousness/positioning at corners, and his shocking kicking and distribution mean he contributes to the problems. Not a popular view I know, but I can only comment on what I see.

20 points behind Charlton now, and we finished above them last season. I really don't buy this **** that it takes time to gel and so on. We played our best game this season against Millwall, when we looked good at least at times, we seem to have gone backwards since then. I don't know the answer, but there is something still very wrong, the only thing I can put my finger on is the lack of width/pace and therefore the service to the former goal machine Lambert. Also still can't understand why AP refuses to play Gillett in the middle, not even on the bench today.

Who decided to make the subs, AP or the crowd?

Contrary to what I've always thought in the past, Rasiak looks much more interested in playing than Saga, and genuinely seems to be part of the team. Saga just looks disinterested, overweight and lazy. As neither of them are playing regularly it may be that one will still be here come 1st September, and on present form I would rather it was Rasiak. Swap Saga for Dickov and that might be a good move. NP will get more out of Saga at the top of CCC than AP will in L1.