Whitey Grandad

Let me see.... ok, done that, now what?

I thought they'd left the club?

They'd have to pay me more than that.

For those who haven't seen it yet, the highlight on BBC. We are at 5:37 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/8391793.stm

James was very good last night. My criticism of him has always been when he plays full-back.

But that's nearly half the division!

No, let's face it he's offside. In all my experience )and I have run the line quite a few times myself) everyone who has ever been flagged has always blamed the lino. The fellow on the line is trained to do the job and he is independent and he gets it right most of the time, which I would put at better than 95%.

We thought an electric collar would be good. My neighbour looked up a translation of 'Ndiaye Papa Waigo' on the internet and it said 'offside pillock', but I don't know what language he was using.

He looked absolutely knackered in the last 10 minutes last night. Maybe it was the after-effects of the virus or maybe he just needs to get a bit fitter.

I agree that he's a better option than Antonio but Waigo also 'somehow shot over from three yards', to quote the BBC.

I disagree, of course, but it doesn't matter what you and I think, there's only one person with the flag. Waigo gets given offside far more than any other player in any team that I have seen so far so he must be doing something wrong.

Our 10 point deduction equates to a loss of 0.217 points per game, and if we apply it pro-rata to the season so far would give us 24.87 points and 11th position, just below Swindon. Our playing record to date is very similar to Millwall's but we had a poor start to the season and we now have Lambert, Hammond, Connolly and Waigo. I would expect us to finish comfortably above 10th, somewhere around the fringes of the playoff positions. To actually finish in the playoffs I think that we would need to beat those teams currently in positions 4 to 10, namely Colchester, Huddersfield, Bristol Rovers, Walsall, Millwall, MK Dons, Swindon.

No, he was offside on every occasion and it happens every game with different officials on the line. I've changed my mind a bit since the Brighton game where on one occasion our player (Connolly?) seemed to be at least three yards onside so I looked through the recording and to my surprise he was indeed offside. He's better than Antonio, though, and we should be able to beat his offsides out of him.

I started reading this thread without noticing the dates and it just shows how much opinions can change, but maybe that's because his performances have changed. Whether that is down to the manager, coaching, atmosphere at the club or the attitude of the player is open to question, or maybe he is more suited to playing in a lower league.

I was very impressed by him last night, and it takes a lot to impress me. He was hardly a gift though, didn't we pay £1m for him?

At least 4 season ticketers behind me weren't there, but I don't know if that affected it. I know of someone who works evenings so he and his 11-year old son wasn't there either. That, the cold weather, school next day, a small number of away fans, it all adds up. Was Markus there? I didn't see him. That would be another one less.

There was one occasion in the second half when I was watching him. He was holding his position a couple of yards offside waiting for the pass and of course he was flagged for it as soon as the pass came to him. Every body around me was screaming 'get onside' at him. We can all see it, there's no excuse about playing at a higher level or being too quick for the assistant referee, it's just something that he needs to work at because it cost us posession in several good attacking positions. You simply can't blame the referees, the rest of the team, the lack of a language, and so on....

They should be level with the second to last defender and I have verey rarely seen them out of position. Every one of the offsides last night was spot on correct, but that is not the point. It is up to the attacker to play such that he is not given offside. Plenty of others manage to do it without any problems,why can't he? I'm sure that with more specialist training he could be taught to stay onside more.

I've just looked on the traffic England site. M3 southbound betwee J11 & J13 delays of about 10mins due to heavy traffic. Likewise A34 southbound between A303 & A33 10 mins. M27 westbound at J12 delays of 15mins caused by earlier accident, average speed 26mph. M27 westbound between A3M & M275 delays of 20mins due to heavy traffic, average speed 5mph. All at 18:26.

We've been through all this on another thread and I suspect I know why this thread has been started. In all my years I have never known Boxing Day to be anything other than the 26th December, butI shall probably be going to Colchester on Monday 28th December. I had a look at the train schedules the other day and it looks like engineering work on the Liverpool Street lines: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/2009/12/28/__/engineeringworks.html#en230ccfc68040f1b7a560c75ab9ae1f

So what would the East coast derby be? Ipswich v Newcastle?

Tell that to our government: 'For example in 2009, Boxing Day is actually on Saturday, 26 December, so there is a substitute bank holiday on Monday, 28 December.' ( http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/LivingintheUK/DG_073741 )

You can tell it's pantomime season (Oh no it isn't)

My advice is: 'take no notice of any advice that I might give you'

The usage has varied over the years and these terms mean different things to different people. Who is to say what is right and what is wrong? `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'