Whitey Grandad

I think it depends on the stadium design, but if you're really interested you can download a document from the FA site: http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/ContactUs/Postings/2006/04/SmokingStadia.htm

That might be considered a 'substantailly enclosed' building: Premises are considered 'substantially enclosed' if they have a ceiling or roof, but have an opening in the walls, which is less than half the total area of the walls.

Can I just point out that we haven't gone down yet so getting your blame in now is a bit previous?

What has never been revealed is how many season ticket holders gave up their tickets in disgust and now do not attend every game.

I think you'll find it was the other way round.

I agree completely. All contributions gratefully received!

I think it's fair to say that at the end of last season most of us went off on our summer hols with the feeling that we had turned a corner and were on the way up at last. Then you-know-who comes back and grabs the wheel and insists that he knows a better path to salvation. As most of us knew at the time, this crazy experiment had no chance of success and was doomed from the outset, yet through blind obstinacy we have continued up the wrong path for too long and now it's probably too late for us to be saved. It's quite clear to me that the man who makes the big decisions is the one who must shoulder the blame, and not for the first time. With his track-record I wouldn't want him anywhere near any enterprise that I owned.

I was thinking that on Saturday. There was a continuous line of stewards in the Itchen / Northam corner. They could have built a big fence (or moat) and saved all the money.

I'm not despondent. Whatever happens I shall still get my fix of football next season, unless the excitement gets too much for me. (apparently it's defibrillator, and I had to look it up too )

That might work! Shall we try it?

Thank you for all your efforts. I'm still reading through it so it may be some time before I post a response.

Unfortunately we would probably need to be top in that table to survive.

I agree totally. In the last 5 minutes Gillett couldn't have been any slower when he went to take a corner. Where on earth was the urgency and desire? And what was Wotte thinking of when he was going to bring on a substitute in injury time?

Our defence has tightened up and our points per game have improved and if we'd started the season like this we would probably have been ok. However, it's all far too late. Now if only we had someone who could score goals.... From the Daily Mail today: Southampton are second from bottom and manager Mark Wotte bemoaned the absence of a 'clinical finisher' after they were held 0-0 at home by QPR. He said: 'You need somebody that can put the ball in the back of the net and that's three points.

Then we'd better keep the players away from the stadium on Tuesdays.

Phew! That's ok then.

Total Hoofball - totally boring. No passion or desire from the players and that needed to come from the manager.

Wasn't there some talk a season or two ago about us taking him on loan?

I'm not too bothered about the result, really. All I hope for is an entertaining game played in the right spirit. :roll:

Wait until you're older, you might feel differently then. All sort of people go to watch football for all sorts of reasons and the world is a better place because of it. Surely we can find room to accommodate everbody (especially at St. Mary's).

Isn't Birmingham in the Black Country then?

I thought that it changed the whole shape of our team. We were a complete mess just before they scored. There were players out of position which lead to misplaced passes and poor defensive midfield cover. Their fellow who put in the ball that Davies scored from was under no pressure at all. We had lost any width that we had before and we had reverted to playing schoolboy football. Also what I didn't see last night was the defending from the front that was so evident against Cardiff and Preston.

Lowe must fall on his sword. With Wotte I think it depends on how we go down. We've had a couple of good results but I've also seen some worrying decisions.

I hate it when people around me stand and sing...... .... it keeps me awake.