Whitey Grandad

As an ex local referee myself I heartily agree.

I quoted Peter Walton who said that VAR should not have got involved. That doesn't say that it shouldn't have been a red but other than this forum nobeody else gives a toss about Saints so not much comment anywhere.

Take your pick. Too many to choose.

Two wrongs don’t make it right. Neither initial decision was obviously wrong and VAR, that is Mike Dean, should have kept out of it. It should kept in reserve for howlers, not differences of opinion. And it kills the rhythm of the game. I don’t like it. Never have.

Yes, often overlooked. The biggest polluter is man himself. (And women of course. And people of all persuasions however they style themselves.

Out of interest, how many points is it out of the last 29 games? Or 30?

His left leg spends the entire time on the ground. Reckless is a yellow. Reckless with excessive force is a red.

He's not playing - it's genuine.

All very good, but will it prevent the next ice age* *yes, I know that we are still in one - see above. All I'm concerned about is not getting crushed under an ice sheet a mile thick.

Peter Walton in The Times today (the first sentence refers to the Werner disallowed ’goal’) ”But I don’t think it was sufficient contact for a foul. It was not enough for a “clear and obvious” error, and the bar was set too low in the intervention of VAR. Thomas Tuchel and Ralph Hasenhüttl both criticised the VAR, Mike Dean, and I do think he intervened too much on Saturday. VAR had an influence on the game, and this is not what it is for. It is not there to always get the correct decision, but to prevent howlers.” I don’t always agree with him but I do today.

Maybe, but I still think that he plays too close to his goal line.

We do differ. Both his legs???

It wasn’t VAR, it was Mike Dean. His decision and his alone.

It’s not a conspiracy if only Dean is involved.

Everything that goes wrong is down to Brexit. After 40 years of blaming the EU for everything rightly or wrongly it’s now Brexit’s turn.

What does she look like?

The way Brexit’s going you’ll soon be needing that for your soup.

There was a worse tackle by Chris Wood yesterday for Burnley where he caught the opponent on the ankle with his leg extended at full stretch. Just a yellow.

Frightening and disappointing. They get paid millions a year and all they need to do is keep themselves at maximum fitness and availability. All right, they might not die from Covid or even get seriously ill but post viral fatigue will knock quite a percentage off their performance.

Troo. I must admit I was only really looking at the first paragraph. I’m not bothered by anybody filling anything though.

I strongly suspect that this season will be no different from most of the others that we have suffered through.

This has to be an attempt at sarcasm, right? And a “regulation petrol can” is not a jerry can.

Don’t be such a prick. You don’t have the faintest idea as to how I would have reacted. When I said that I would not have complained, that is my position on this matter. I am a traditional Englishman and my word is my bond. I very strongly resent your personal attacks on me.

That’s my view too. If Atkinson had given the red straight away I wouldn’t have complained but having someone else looking over his shoulder and marking his work is an intrusion too far.

Nothing new there. Sea levels have been rising ever since the last ice age. Speaking of which, when do the scientists predict the next one? They can’t even predict the last ones.