Whitey Grandad

Yes, this is a good point often overlooked. There was a TV comedy article once on Not the NIne O'Clock News (?) with a newsreader telling of countless world disasters each ending with the line "No Brits involved"

Yes, sad news. Unfortunately I shall always remember him for his missed tackle on the halfway line against Poland in 1973. RIP Norman.

Now that is total billhooks. If you really believe this then you haven’t got a clue as to what counts as fitness. I guess from your beliefs that you must be relatively young and that your concept of fitness is having a toned body with good muscle structure. For the over fifties it’s nothing of the sort.

Not so. Fresh clean air and sunshine are more beneficial that stuffy recycled air. We all need to build up our vitamin D after the winter. You’re thinking of a different sort of exercise, body building rather than getting your fluids moving. This is more relevant for the older generations.

You can’t confiscate someone’s car just because they’re a selfish, stupid idiot. There wouldn’t be many cars left on the road!

Of course it’s relevant. We must never, ever lose sight of the purpose of this mini-lockdown or else the regulations become and end in themselves.

Let’s not get too melodramatic. No lives were ‘put at danger’.

Yet you cannot see that there is a difference between domestic travellers and incomers from overseas. One is a known risk because the history is known, the other is an unknown risk. And I am not advocating travel from UK hotspots am I.

Not the point though, is it. The punishment must fit the crime.

Under what law?

No, but what do they have to do with the EU and Freedom of Movement?

As I read it the point was about the size of the penalty and not the culpability.

“far from perfect” is quite an understatement. We deliberately followed a policy that was different from most others. It was the ‘sit back and do nothing’ policy. Whilst others were closing bars, restaurants and schools we were being taught how to was our hands.

That link seems to be about Germany. What am I supposed to see?

It varies between countries. Belgium in particular are very strict. Where there’s a will...

Schengen has never been a completely open door. After three months they can come and send you back if you don’t meet the conditions. Britain has never enforced this.

Not the same. Incomers are unknowns. Locals have been through weeks of a form of quarantine.

I'm not saying that we should all be allowed to do likewise, but whilst the police are out persecuting motorists there is plenty of other stuff going on that is far more virus-friendly.

Not in my house I don't

And anybody can wander in from a virus hotspot without even being tested let alone quarantined.

If it hadn’t been reported then we would never have known about it. And nobody would have been infected.

Yes, it’s all a question of risk. In the grand scheme of things nothing like as bad as holding a house party for all your juvenile mates in Manchester. I am not condoning their action, just saying that the penalty was over the top.

And how exactly would they do that? And what is the difference between a 200 mile or a 2 mile trip?

It doesn’t sit right with me either. A stern warning would have been sufficient plus public shaming and humiliation.

That would have been fun. Just imagine the whole of Div 1 getting promoted.