Whitey Grandad

It's another complication and doesn't take into account the allowances made for time wasting.

So somebody has invented a whole new mathematical or logical notation which just happens to look like the traditional one that has been in use for generations. If they are not going to tell us the syntax then any answer is a valid one since we can all make up our own alternatives. These sort of questions should be treated with the disdain that they deserve.

Normally only 6 games but Cisse has previous.

The Express was quoting official figures, so I guess you're right There was also a link from The Independent.

The Express was quoting official figures, so I guess you're right

So what's your point?

No, it's not their personal fault, but it's an unavoidable result. We also disproved your figure of 53rd earlier.

I refer you to the links I gave further above. I don't like the figures, but anuybody who believes that there are 'only' 62 million people in this country is a gullible sucker. Do you really think the ONS is accurate? These are old links: http://cornerstone-group.org.uk/2008/02/25/how-many-people-live-in-britain-%E2%80%93-by-greg-hands-mp/ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/city-eye-facts-on-a-plate-our-population-is-at-least-77-million-395428.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18854762 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174300/Record-levels-immigration-lead-jam-packed-England-population-rockets-56m.html https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110222021843AAqgHpR&page=2 http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/333097/Tories-fail-to-solve-immigration-crisis-that-blights-Britain 'Between 2004 and 2007, 270,000 work permits were issued by the Government to non-European nationals, yet over 900,000 National Insurance numbers were issued. As a graphic illustration of this farce, just 1455 Nigerians were given leave to enter Britain in this period, yet 35,900 Nigerians got NI numbers.' But as I say, the actual number is not relevant to my arguments. The effects of the overcrowding are all around us and plain to see.

One or two don't make a difference but several million do.

There is nowhere near enough money to pay for the extra infrastructure. It doesn't even pay for their 'running costs', especially since very few of these arrivals are bringing large capital sums into the economy. Indeed, many are sending money out of the country to relatives abroad. Overcrowding is the problem and that has not come about because of indigenous population increase. 53rd is not correct, we've been through all this before. The official figure for the population is recognised as too low and I have been talking about England, not the UK which includes the highland areas of Scotland. There are several credible estimates that estimated our total population (UK) at around 80 milllion, and this was around 10 years ago. As I have argued above, the actual numbers are only relevant as a comparison, the effects are plain for all to see, at least, for those of us who are old enough to have noticed the increases. The demands on housing, transport, education, health, even the prison population. And no, I'm not saying that immigrants are more likely to end up in prison, just that as the population increases so does the number of prisoners.

There is, of course, a lot of truth in this. I carry no torch for Mr. NF but all our motorways are crowded, whcih is not surprsing if the population increases by 10 million over a decade or so.

...is the correct answer,

I thought it smelt funny.

Much of this is very true. I disagree with you on us not being full up and although people have been coming for centuries we have never seen anything on the scale that we have now. As for austerity, we'd better get used to it because that's all there is, I'm afraid.

Mastication is better for you.

Better to eat it slowly than to gobble it down. That applies to all of us.

Zoster

Au contraire, mon ami. I'm with you on this one.

You'll be telling me that aprèsski isn't French next.

A very good question. We can import goods produced by cheap labour which undercuts our native manufacturers but where the work needs to be done here, as in service or construction, we end up importing the workers themselves.

Not allowed. If it were, everybody would be doing it and we'd all be back where we started.

Swearing and dissent are a regular complaint amongst local referees. Kids see the bignames doing it on TV and think it's all right for them too. Swearing in itself is not the issue, it's 'offensive, abusive or insulting language'. I used to take the view that if the swearing was incidental and could not be heard off the pitch then I was not too bothered, although other refs think differently. Industrial language is common amongst the sort of lads that I used to handle and usually meant nothing. Miking up the ref would help a lot with public understanding.

I always hold your welfare dear at heart. (Other forum respondents need not get concerned, everyone has a place in my world )

Like you I always run my stopwatch during the game and I was watching Atkinson. He did look at his watch during the last period but maybe not at exactly the 4 minute mark but maybe he had a figure of 4 minutes 10 seconds in his head? There was definitely some timewasting during the added time. Referees are told not to blow their whistle to stop the game at a crucial moment, such as whilst a corner is being taken, unless the attaching team take so long that it is considered that they have missed their chance (Clive Thomas, was it?). The ref has to be fair to both teams in these circumstances.

It causes overcrowing which impacts on transport, the NHS, education... There is none so blind as he who will not see.