saint1977

Reluctantly agree. Need a tough professional streak added with much more robust attitude to training and fitness. Not fit - don’t get paid. Don’t mind if that’s BFS or someone else. Hughes being sacked would mean Hoedt dropped from the squad and hopefully gone for a cut price fee say £6m in Jan. Either way, the club needs to be out of Gao’s hands as quickly as possible.

Not a great set of options, Gabbi and Obafemi it is. JWP a false 9 thought? False footballer more like

Whilst I don't like VVD, his reaction with the referee last night was quality. Pity he didn't show the same behaviours when Klippety wanted a weekend away in Blackpool. Re: Fonte, he was slowing up physically as evidence by the shockers for WHU (one of them at SMS, when a Pellegrino team scores 3, you know you've had a stinker) although the leadership was still there. I got the impression he and Puel didn't see eye to eye and possibly Reed as well after the strikers/transfer window debacle in 2016. The fact he wasn't adequetly replaced despite the money seemingly being there was the next sign of Les slowing up as well and Reed should have been phased out that summer if the 'takeover' wasn't in the background. Tadic was inconsistent but been in great form for Ajax in Europe. Quite frankly, the table this machine sits on is more creative and contributes more than Moi, who has to be one of the most pointless signings I've ever seen, and that's going some on recent years. Even with VVD, we've replaced him with Hoedt, who is getting marginally better but hardly good sufficient still, and Vestergaard, whose is a lanky presence on the bench at £18m. We talk about Fonte slowing up, but he could play for Saints in the masters tournaments in his 50s and still outpace Jannik. Let's not even mention Carrillo. With the above ineptitude, Reed, his carer and rent-a-gob might as well have done a KLF and burned £85m on a Scottish island. Let's not moan, we've probably got one or two more good performances to come this season from Lemina. Now he's got speed, unfortunately it's only when there's a 30 or 40mph limit.

No-one is going to be ecstatic about what is on offer but it's a bit like saying 'do you want Saints to be in the Championship, League Two or out of the League in 5-15 years time'. There isn't a PL option there - well apart from something that politically can't be undone - so her deal is probably the least damaging option in town. Whether some of the swivel-eyed loons in Westminster see that - or those who seriously want Corbyn to have a shot at winning a GE (yuck) - is another matter of course.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/brexit-is-now-such-a-headache-that-the-uk-is-uninvestable-according-to-one-of-wall-streets-best-respected-research-houses/ar-BBPNPNy?ocid=mailsignout Which would be all of us sucking it up, including your kids and grandchildren. The economy was going quite well, defecit right down, and that's all of at risk because of a nationalist spasm in the Tory and Labour parties. Congratulations Wes, what a class act you and your fellow Brexiteers are.

And CNN won! Disgusting the way Acosta was treated. Trump is a dictator, and a thug. Learned his approach from Putin. Plus the other media organisations which joined the action, including Fox. When you are too right wing an administration for Fox News, you really are off the charts.

Why don’t you ask the Police National Coordination Centre whose report in September indicated they were preparing for significant civil unrest if there was shortages in medicines (a known risk) and other key goods? The Uk Head of Amazon also expressed similar concerns. But then you are a hardcore Brexiteer - f uck businesses that pay working people’s mortgages and f uck experts. Do you live in South Hams? Do you know Sarah Wollaston? A minority may disagree with her but remember S Hams voted Remain. It contains places such as Brixham which is fishing port and more pro Brexit but also Totnes with some broadly minded people who have grown up where a 1940s map isn’t covered in British pink. What she has had is the Leave.EU Far Right extremists funded by Banks and various domestic/international gangsters targeting her local party members on Facebook hurling all sorts of fake news and personal abuse. Most local people think it’s repulsive but clearly the sort of behaviour you agree with, which says everything to everyone on this forum. As for Conor Burns saying he’d encourage BeLeave contest her seat - ha ha! Poor old Bournemouth having him for an MP.

Spot on. Raab is an absolute dunce, just as Davis and the rest of them are and got completely taken to the cleaners. Apparently all these evil 'Remoaner' civil servants were holding it all up, and expertise doesn't matter does it? You can have fake news such as spending £350m a week on the NHS on the side of buses instead. Lord help us if anyone of the Brexiteers get anywhere near a position of power. Boris, Fox, Raab, Davis - they've all been absolutely undisputed failures as ministers. I thought nothing could be worse than Corbyn, but it looks like a dead heat, and a dead economy. No wonder one of our local MPs here Devon Sarah Wolleaston has gone from a Brexiteer, to campaigning for a second vote. At least someone has seen the light. Disgrace. the lot of them, and that includes DUP, Labour as well. Self interest, nothing about the national interest at all. No Deal would lead to civil unrest that we've not seen since the riots of 1981.

If only they were leaving the UK, and Europe as a continent. I'll arrange a coach to take them all to Heathrow so they can board a plane join their friends Donald and Steve, and the rest of us can get on with our lives minus their rabid nationalism and weird obsessions. I'm sure Trumpy will happily accept some more white, male, old far right nutters to join his hareem.

We've already got plenty of those so loan out or sell in Jan. Now Les is gone, the ideological hold on keeping him has probably gone.

We were - well, apart from Branfoot where it varied. Terrible away from home, away wins were like Faberge eggs before April each season, but only 3-4 sides won at the Dell each season generally. We also had the 3 wins in a row at home to Man U, 3-1, 6-3 and 1-0. It was a mix of average (but hard working) players with MLT at the centre getting us over the line until the late 90s when Marian etc started to arrive. You've got to consider though the club was in a ground similar size to Bournemouth without a Russian benefactor and trying to pave the way for a new ground, which took years pf meetings and campaigns - I was at some of them! No-one is going to fear coming to SMS but it isn't the stadium - no team looked forward to visiting it 2009-16 because they knew they'd get a serious game.

If Carlsberg did Saintsweb posts.....hard to find a fan who would disagree with a single word of that. Greenridge - the fans on social media weren’t impressed either! Looks like it could be as low as 25 or 26k, but doubt if the daft old pensioner will leave or Ralph puck off.

Yes, I thought that was harsh on WGS. Yes, McCann wasn’t a great signing but WGS didn’t get the cash to push on he needed e.g. Malbranque. First half of the season we were very effective, good at the back with Killer and Antti commanding, Le Saux, Doddy and Claus hadn’t lost their legs yet. Beattie still had great form in the first half of that season and Phillips got a few. We weren’t as good as the previous season, when the pressing and energy was great to watch although not quite as pretty on the eye as Nigel, Poch and Ronald’s teams. Selling Bridgey did lose some attacking thrust. But we kept on getting results until that Fulham game, then Newcastle at home in the Cup, WGS didn’t sign a new contract (a bit like the Koeman saga) with rumours he needed a hip operation and it unravelled after that barring a new manager bounce under Sturrock. There was one - Man City away, Wolves away, Liverpool home. The players were always very fit though, Wenger reckoned the fittest in the PL and if this current shower played the 02/03 they would lose by several goals as well as stopping to throw up last nights roast dinner and several pints because they’d been run senseless by Mazza, Bridgey, Killer and the rest of the side I loved watching.

Would be a good call but given the situation with Leicester’s owner, I can see him being loyal to Leuven and the family. WGS is similar to what you are describing and would pistol whip these lazy flops into submission and get them fighting fit. He would not take any s hit whatsoever from Reed, but Les has to go anyway, along with his social care e,g. Wee Ross the tea boy. If Gao was vaguely smart, he’d appoint an abrasive manager that Les and Ralph couldn’t work with, but he won’t because he hasn’t got a f ucking clue.

They will when they get relegated this season. As someone posted above, an half empty stadium this year and 12000 gates next season will force them out as Les et al won’t have any money to pay themselves and Gao will no alternatives to sell as he won’t be able to service the losses. Then we start again as Sunderland have.

And then welcome League One, and even lower. It’s got even harder in the Championship since we were last year. Saints fans - the only way you will get change is to boycott home games and attend away games only. It did for Branfoot, did for Lowe/Wilde and will do for this lot.

MLG - give him a refund ;-) Instant Classic must have been playing the game as well. Micky - some good pubs in Bradford and VP is an interesting stadium and one of the best at that level. Their fans are as peed off at their faceless overseas owners as ours are, and they don’t score many, so it should be a home from home. Hope I’m wrong and it’s a 4-4 thriller for you and have a good day out

Do the rest of the Bundesliga want to look at the rest of the squad bar the keepers? We’ve got about 23 more s hit players they can have.

Not just ladies teams, boys and girls hubs and teams as well. There’s a huge banner advertising Saints in the South West on the main road into Torquay and there are hubs all over the SW. Whether they can maintain it after relegation is another thing and the football has hardly been inspiring in the last 2 years!

Dennis, Case, MLT, Danny Wallace. We already have a decent LB but along with Casey, you just suspect Psycho is going to have the slackers and overweight loafers in the squad a wallop if they aren’t putting 100% in. Wish we had enforcers like that now, keep the boys on their toes and honest. MLT - pretty obvious, and Danny in his hey day to provide some needed pace instead of the slow crap.

Very much so, Kat did her best after Markus passed on but more money and also King Power have got highly professional people around them, not rent-a-quotes like Ralph or dinosaurs like Les. Do you think their owners would ever have let Les continue as far as he has with the vast sums he has wasted and not least with the stinking attitude he and Ralph displayed at the fans forum? Difference is the respect for the club, area and fans, and unfortunately although KL tried to maintain, it was lost with Narkus sadly. Gao doesn’t give a toss as long as the club is fourth from bottom although that looks a miracle too far this season with that bunch of unfit losers on the pitch.

The two keepers....Yoshi and PEH at a push. Ings could have been interesting if he’d kept his Liverpool standards and not fallen into the slovenly and parochial ways at SFC and you could say the same about Gabi and Napoli standards. The rest I really have no interest or any particular sentiment towards. Professionally or personally I’ve nothing in common with the club over the last 18 months, didn’t like Claude’s football but at least he had some personal and professional pride. Pellegrino didn’t care at all and Hughes did last season but foot well and truly off the gas now. No interest until someone with some drive and resources takes it over and kicks the lazy, faceless, Southampton FC corporate blob into shape really brutally.

Along with the minority shareholder, VC/DoF, Head of Recruitment, Chairman, academy coaching staff and Hunter. Then we can get onto discussing Hughes and his staff's future. Leicester's owner was amazing but probably a one-off. I'd just settle for someone competent with some decent investors on board like Sunderland have now got with Stewart Donald. Just hope Reed and Gao don't compile so much debt on rubbish players on long contracts as to deter the new owner the club are desperately going to need. Culture sounds rotten from top to bottom, the players look disengaged and unfit, and the push for continuous improvement has gone. The lack of engagement with supporters is getting as bad as 08/09 levels, and I remember that season at too well.

This looks appalling and heart goes out to all involved, Leicester as a city and also all of the people who watched that happen, which is unimaginable.

Doesn’t look good at all, shambles at SFC irrelevant in comparison to the potential human tragedy here. Hope people on board bailed out somehow but that’s hope rather than expectation.