Micky

I can't see any point for a poll on this one personally.

Stan

I love this program, never miss an episode. Particularly love the bits where they show people sleeping in bed through (what appears to be) night vision goggles. Must see TV, never to be missed....!

FFS, give the guy a break, hundreds of other posters do this every other week on the post match thread...!

'angim...!

No big deal - they probably got it from here....

Geeze - Corpey needs 'checkin' in' don't he...?

Are you deaf...? They said the image should feature all or some part of the crest, not breast you fool...!!! That said - I quite like it..!

Controversial - but true.

There appears to be some very fickle and insecure people on here. Does it really matter what Markus Liebherrs financial status is. He might be a billionairre, maybe just a millionairre, who knows, perhaps just a wealthy man. Does it really matter? It's not the size of his wealth that is important - it's the prudency with which he runs the club. I'm fairly sure that (irrespective of his overall personal wealth) the club will be running to some sort of budget, and it will not be a bottomless pit. Therefore his personal wealth really is unimportant. No, we don't want some JCL without two farthing to rub togeather running the show, but I think, on the evidence of his investment in his first year, he is hardly that. You do not run the MALI group of companies by ****ing money up against the wall, he is obviously well versed in good business practice - so forget his wallet ffs, it's only part of the package. Not so very long ago all of SMS was singing ML name in celebration, now here we are questioning his financial standing. Fickle - not us.

Thats fine but not a lot of good to others if he is unable to share it.

And therein lies the root of the problem, the reason that all right minded fans are looking at PFC now and seeing a pile of dogs shyte. Yes - we did try to pull a fast one, yes we got caught, yes we put our hands up and admitted the guilt, yes we then unloaded a whole host of our best players to right the wrong, and yes we took our bitter medicine and payed a heavy price. By so doing we have regained a little of our self respect and have a brighter future. Not only did you 'pull a fast one', you are still pulling it and getting away with it, effectively sticking 2 fingers up at the establishment and saying that you couldn't give a toss. Your debts are astronomical because you employed players that you patently could not afford. You cheated every single team you played, you now want to right that wrong by way of a CVA amounting to a pitance over a protracted period of time - nice ethics, real nice. The whole situation is obscene for so many reasons - I don't want you to 'die', I don't want you to even go out of business, couldn't really care if you don't get any points deducted this coming season, wouldn't actually give a toss if you got promoted back to the Premiership. Throughout this whole sorry mess your Chairmen, Board, Manager and players have bleated how it is not thier fault - it is nobodies fault, nobody with the balls to take the blame. At least when our club went under those at the top had the good grace to clear their desks and leave quietly. What did yours do? If you cannot see why the flippancy in your remark (be it tongue in cheek or not) causes outrage amongst real football fans, then I suggest you take a trip to Selhurst Park and see how life is in the real world. I am very proud of my club, are you?

Not surprised about Theo to be honest, he'll be gutted obviously, but on the up side - he has time on his side. Who knows, this may actually be a blessing in disguise for the kid.

FFS Benjii, trust you to totally ignore the brief, it's meant to have the Saints crest on it somewhere, otherwise though - perfecto...!!!

Exactly - had there been, it would probably have sounded something like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgksE6gPWPc which would have got less points than we did...!

Would you expect him to say anything else, really...? Like he is going to admit that his manager doesn't rate him and is looking for the first opportunity to offload him - I doubt it somehow. Either way - good luck to him - hope he goes on to be a big success where ever he ends up playing - he was good for us and owes us nothing.

Exactly - luckily there is very little in the way of any musical talent on show in this so called 'song contest', and therefore I don't really take too much notice - the whole thing is, as you say, a farce. I work in Germany most months and quite often talk to one of the girls in the hotel about music, and we often chat about how English / American music dominates European countries, and how crap German music is in general. Tonights result only goes to show how right I am - I'm off back over there next week - can't wait to chat to her again after this result.

Did we win...???

Ahhhh I see you are competing in my novice category as well....! Nice banner though - I like it...

Who's singing for the UK...???

Aaaaahhhh right - cheers Steve - even to the non pc literate, it maketh sence now.

I like that, but haven't you extended the boundaries there? I thought that we were limited to a 400 x 100 banner, which would sit something like this: After Minty posted the mock up, I thought that there was probably room to spare, I just wonder if there is some other reason as to whether it's usable or not.

Just read that article myself and it smacks of desperation to me.

OK, it ain't great but I'm entering the novice class: or ... still workin' on it though, and learning as I go...! BTW - thanks to B Rabbit for the layers advice. Any way of getting rid of the green and blue channels in GIMP...?? With new club crest - and that's me done for now:

Cheers CL - I actually already have GIMP installed so I may have a play around with that. My problem is that I dont understand the basics of imaging software, layers, floating layers and the like so this could be a bit of an uphill battle. Thanks for your help though.