Micky

Through it all, still I actually feel sorry for them. It really is a putrid, grimey, cess pit of a situation, the stench of (continued?) malpractices is just overpowering. Why the FAPL, and civil authorities, continue to hold handkerchiefs to thier (stuck up) noses and whiff the fresher air of other clubs is astounding. But I am beginning to agree with Nick - the awful smell of dung, could well turn to the sweet aroma of summer blossoms as PFC, through all of the cheating, come up smelling of roses.

Something may well get buried, I don't think it will be the news though...!

Good stuff as usual, keeps it real, interesting and funny. Looking forward to the next installment Billy.

Which 'Team of the Week' ?

Sorry to drag this one back up again, but was watching this last night: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rqfx0/Girls_on_the_Frontline/ For anybody who doubted the value of having women working alongside men on operations, you can clearly see that there is a place for it. The woman featured show just how professional they are in conducting their job role in some of the most hostile conditions many of us will ever see, let alone witness. These women (and men) are the reason why Tilern DeBique should have recieved nothing - this is the environment in which she was trained, and paid, to do her job - she didn't. Good documentary all the same - well done to all of the men and women featured - true heroes.

Then clearly you don't know Bournemouth very well. Somebody quite famously said, not so very long ago, 'everybody who comes to Bournemouth loves and feels affection for the club, be they from Arsenal or where ever - they all love it here' (or words to that effect) - honest, no joke...!

Social networking sites have much to answer for, now they are even inhibiting my enjoyment of Saints FFS...!!!

Wilko, I would tend to disagree about the 'graveness of punishment'. To an outsider I can appreciate that the military justice system may seem old, antiquated and behind the times, however - you have to remember it's purpose. What you should also be aware of as well is that formal disciplinary measures are not normally taken for minor, first and sometime second offences - it is repeat offences that are dealt with. Some punishments are there almost for effect, to preserve history even. Being double marched off the square and locked away for the day for a shoddy turnout is really just a stark reminder of the standards that have to be maintained. Nothing further comes of it. I would suggest that in the case of this particular young lady there was 'history', and people were losing patience. What you should remember though is that many of the 'crimes' that are dealt with by the seniors in the unit would probably be dealt with in civilian companies by sacking the person concerned. Lose your job and be on the dole or do 5 days nick, or 3 days ROP's or fined £250 quid and carry on - actually now looking at it, it appears a much better system than that in civilian street. The military system is not perfect, people do abuse it, bullying happens - but when it is implemented sensibly it, I believe, is fair.

Exactly, this team needs to do that, that team needs to do this. Stop worrying about it - we could get tonked at Yeovil, so it would be bloody immaterial anyway. Sit back, enjoy...

£17k, given what she asked for I guess that this is some kind of result for the 'common sense party' at last, but it is still £17k too much given the circumstances.

Yeah, I understand Benjii, but the point that I was trying to make is that it opens the way for all such soldiers to challenge the MOD as she has done, and thus effectively take advantage of the militarys (somewhat robust and unswerving) system.

Sorry Justin - but I just disagree. I understand what you are saying about differing intelligence levels, however, this is to do with basic military discipline. I take your point about the infantry as well, they will be 'outside the wire' whilst this lady would probably not. However, she has to support those guys outside the wire - that is her job. I actually served in the same corps as the lady in question, I still work with them today, and yes they are a technical based corps. But our job is to make sure that those guys on the ground have the means to talk. Sounds basic, but it's not - generally speaking those infantry guys will be asking for ammo resupply, air support, casualty evacuation, bomb disposal; all manner of things - therefore the services that we provide have to work. When they don't work, we call for a Royal Signals technician to fix the problem, which is the trade that this woman was - unfortunately she was unable to do this because she was at home with the baby. As others on here have stated (Stu in particular), phase 1 training (basic) is there to teach somebody how to be a soldier, how to accept discipline without question, how to survive in the sh yte pit. Every single soldier needs to understand how this fits in with their role in HM Forces. Phase 2 training (which I think you are alluding to) is where she has a chance to demonstrate her technical competence in a more relaxed, but ultimately a military, environment, and where different levels of intellect are needed dependant on the job role. They are 2 distinct areas of military training, and yes they do differ widley. However, at the end of the day both of these training phases are designed for one purpose, to train soldiers for their war role. If this woman gets any compensation at all it sets a very dangerous precedent for all single soldiers with dependants in the Army.

Jiminy

VIM

PFC, you are deluded every day, if you weren't you would be a Saint...!

Well well well, fancy that - a voice of reason orating what the majority are thinking, yet too PC to say themselves. Perhap this should be posted on POL so that they can see what the real neutrals are actually thinking, and it seems saying too. About time.

That is exactly right, that is all that every fan wants, to be the best, fair and square. Now read the last 3 words again, and have a think about it....

The fact that you wrote that leads me to think that you really do not have a clue as to what all other real 'neutrals' really do think about your club. Strangely last night, after reading this board and in particular a quote from the POL board I felt very very sorry for your club. The post stated 10 things that could be about to happen to your club - one of which was basically going to the wall. When I took some time to think about it I felt sorry for you, I actually pity you - I hope that you survive. When I read your message boards, your fan love to mock us because you are in the Premier League and we are but a small club 2 leagues below you. You have 'won' the FA cup, and will probably win it again - yet we have won nothing for years. And so you love to mock us. Yet stand back and look, and you will find that those very two things are probably the core reason as to why you find yourself in the mess that you do, the Premier League and the FA Cup, you're there, your have them, and they have ruined you. And so, as I said I feel very, very sorry for you and wish you well for the future - if indeed you have one. Given where you could be going I feel no bitterness whatsoever towards you, actually I feel relief that I am unassociated with PFC and slightly embarrassed by the wealth of riches that my own club affords me even two leagues below you. The Premier League and FA Cup eh, what every club aspires to, but who'd have 'em eh?

FFS - Yes. We agree. But the difference is they have not run up massive bills to the taxman, agents, other clubs and (dare I say it) thier own staff that they have not paid. One of your own ex players is sueing you. Simply - pay all of your running costs before you pay your wages. You can the decide how much you wish to pay the staff and how much profit you wish to make. In business - this is generally deemed to be rule one - stick by it and you won't go far wrong.

I had you down as a tad more intelligent than that tbh. If you really think that there is any direct correlation between our circumstances and yours then you really are blind to what is, and has, taken place at your club in front of your own eyes. If you believe for one minute that our business strategy was in any way, shape or form similar to yours, then you are deluded. If the more intellegent contributor cannot appreciate why people are annoyed because PFC have avoided payment of substantial tax, taken points from teams in the Premier League and removed teams from cup competitions whilst employing staff that they patently cannot afford, then I can understand why the mong in the street, stands there with his thumb up his ass, shouting play up pompey. FFS - have some good grace at least, I dispair, really I do. I hope you win the cup, beat Chelsea 5 nil on the day. The FA cup, greatest cup competition in the world - tarnished for life by a bunch of cheats. That's how I and many others will remember your 'achievement'.

It's interesting to think what would have happened had she worked for a small civilian company and done the same thing. What, for instance, if she was a technician on call for a civilian company, got called out, but failed to attend because of her child. She could have been dismissed and then taken them to court in exactly the same circumstances. Would her potential payout be in the 100k region as it could be with MOD - or are smart arse lawyers just milking what is, essentially the biggest firm in the UK. This whole case stinks of the PC brigade citing stupid E Op rules and getting away with blue murder while common sence, once again, flys out of the window. Total and utter bollux.

FFS, sshhhhhushhhhhh, 19C may be listening and you know how he feels about Saints players and betting scams - we'll never hear the end of it....!

Not going to let other results spoil this evening - 3rd time this season we've crashed in 5 goals (when was the last time you could say that) - great result, away from home - well done AP and the lads. Got to keep it going in case somebody else folds, and so long as we do our bit I'll be happy no matter what the outcome.

Ummmm me too - can you buy exclusivity to F5 on this forum - or is that a tenner...?

The Saints are coming.....