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Everything posted by Micky
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WTF are you talking about - the title of the thread is Strachan -what relavance does that have to the support. He was good for us - he's gone (I think he was pretty good for you too), he's history. The fact that you are complaining about winning 3 titles in the last 4 years and we have won sh@g shyte for nigh on 35, but are still passionate about our team shows how much we support our team. You continue supporting and whinging about your lot in that totally boring '2 horse race' that you call football and we will continue to support our team in a competative league - through good times and bad. Now that we have got that straight - there probably is nothing else more to say really.
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Thats good - once he has rushed that one through perhaps he could turn his attention to Saints.... oh....
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Would you just GTFOOH, FFS. This is a Saints board. So Strachan only managed to get you 3 titles in the last 4 years - geeze, I'm gutted. Did some stuff in Europe too eh, ohh but failed to beat that other team up there - commiserations to you mate. Get real and FO for god sake. We are Saints fans - we haven't won naff all since 76, we ain't won 3 games in the last 4 seasons let alone 3 titles...!!! Europe - we go there for holidays...!! Now FO and cry somewhere else will ya - Saints are in f u c k i n crisis and all you can moan about is your 3 naff titles - dream on mate. dream on....
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Nick there is absolutely no shame in backing MJ. Ok I don't rate him at all, many others on here have labelled him a 'Walter Mitty and chancer' (or worse). But at the end of the day - while we talked - he did something, beit constructive or damaging, I believe he has acted in good faith. Mr A N Other, may be there, who knows - but if he ain't, all of us MJ knockers will be changing our tune (and colours) pretty damn rapidly I would think.
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I understand your point, especially the part about MJ's past history in such dealings. I too tend to be of the opinion that any respected business person would be reluctant (at best) to be seen to be doing business with MJ based on said history. That said, perhaps they are simply willing to give him just enough rope - and then as happened in the AFCB deal, either reel it in or cut it completley. Apart from facilitating and having some business contacts I really don't see what MJ brings to the table in terms of further involvement. So like you, I too (based on his history) do not see why people would wish to do business with him - but it appears they do. Better hope, in case there are no other deals, that he does his eh?
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I'm not sure what you mean by this Stanley to be honest. Yes I can see that Nick has decided to pin his colours firmly to MJs mast (metaphorically speaking of course..!!), but I'm not sure that anybody has their hand up Nicks backside just yet. Nick appears desperate for the deal to be done and like many on here can only see MJ in the frame - let's be honest, either the NDA's are holding firm, or MJ is the only horse in the race. (As DP has alluded to as well - the cavalry do not appear to be charging over the hills just yet). So who else is out there - who is going to come in and do the deal - let's be honest it has all gone eerily silent, only MJ remains! I think there are others on here close to the MJ thing as well who, whilst distancing themselves in some respect, probably know more than they are willing (permitted) to tell. But one things for certain from where I am sitting - I do not see any Knights in Shining Armour about to come to our rescue - do you..?
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Nick - I agree. But if they don't want people to know then keep sshhhhhhh...! If there is a name, or names, that they don't want to enter the public domain all they have to do is conduct business professionally. If information is being leaked, then 9 times out of 10 it has come from within. Put your own house in order before blaming others for leaks of business information. All of that said - your disassociation point / theory is interesting though - surely in a deal of this magnitude they would not be wishing to fail and therefore would have hired the best man to deliver. Disassociation surely only acts as a vote of no confidence and could be construed as being set up to fail. Not sure - but interesting point though.
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Listen mate - if he was gonna write the cheque today I wouldn't mind if we played in f u c k i n ' Tartan...!!!
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Can't disagree with any of this JS. I wonder how many of us thought, whilst we were all smirking at the now infamous 'Botch Job of Bournemouth' - that in a couple of years we would be praying for the same said person to come to our aid? Not many methinks..!
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So which one is it then - good source or rumours...???
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Nick - surely if they don't want a name to get out then they should just sssshhhhhhhush until the deal is done eh? Like I said - do business professionally. BTW - It's not Rod Stewart as posted on (yet) another ITK thread this morning is it...?
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But have they Nick - where is the evidence that this deal is coming with further investment for the club. I'm not knocking MJ's ambition and purpose, but I really do find it incredible that from a starting lot of 35 odd bids - this is where we are now. And it doesn't appear that there are any other real bids about. You cannot blame people for judging MJ. He has history, (as we all do) here on this board, and it is a simple as that. He will be judged on that history - it's human nature unfortunately. I judge everybody here by what they write. Alps, TDD, Stanley, Dalek the whole lot of them. Yes I am happy that we, hopefully, will be saved - but my thoughts and wishes for MJ (as posted elsewhere) remain extant.
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Exactley - if your business acumen and plan is not strong enough to hold up under a little scrutiny and critisism from a handful of customers (based on your past performance as well) then you really are in the wrong job. You really shouldn't be conducting any of your business here anyway - and personally I don't believe that certain people have been able to contain themselves and stay away. Pretty unprofessional give recent events. Most corporate companies come in for critisism from a proportion of their customers - it goes with the territory and is something that you have to deal with in a professional manner. Running away from a deal because of a few misplaced quotes and comments on an internet forum is hardly indicative of professional, ambitious and driven business people.
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I'm with you - and my cynicism remains. Although I think it is all meant in good faith, I really cannot bring myself to believe that we have not attracted the 'quality' of buyer that many on here said that we would have little trouble in courting. Now we are left with a 'Photocopier Salesman / Business Strategist' to hopefully try to bail us out - even if they do manage to do a deal, I seriously worry about the short term (never mind the long term) investment and running of the club.
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Without wishing to be rude, but can I just ask you how old you are please..?
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Have a think about it mate - a good source - right, so how many other 'gems' has your 'good source' fed you lately? How many of them were true? Ok near the mark then? Err tell you what - had even an inkling of truth (or sence) about them? Stuff his employment - with rubbish like this he deserves to be sacked. Why not just name and shame him and then let us decide on the validity (or otherwise) of these highly unlikely claims eh?
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Holy shyte...
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Problem is that these are the people that are allegedly trying to buy the club...!!! To say this is whole sorry saga is fast decending into farce would be an almighty understatement. Either we find ourselves a creditable buyer and new owner in the next couple of days or else I fear we face many more years of decline.
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If you want to see something that is an embarrasment to SFC - take a look in the mirror. No matter which side of the fence you sit with regard to Rupert Lowe, the bottom line is that everybody is a fan of SFC, and ultimately wants success for the club. For you to label them as an embarrasment is somewhat shortsighted really - they hold a different POV to you - nothing more. Still - why not jump on the Luvvie bandwagon - it's easy, you don't have to think too much so you should fit right in.
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Even Rupert Lowe..?
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Exactly my thoughts too - this is the reason that I am so against 'Legends' managing teams. Newcastle got desperate and went for the 'fairytale' appointment as opposed to the 'business sense' appointment (or sticking with SA as it happens). It's failed and now the latest club hero finds himself the man that took them down - sad time for them.
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I sympathise - let's hope that this time next year there is still a club to support and your kids are leaving SMS with smiles on their faces - that is what all fans want to experience anyway.
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I find this quite bizarre really - and I'm not getting at you. But last season and the season before people on this site moaned and moaned about anything and everything to do with the club. The players, the manager, the tactics, the board, the picture - everything. Many welcomed administration and couldn't wait for it to happen. Now it has happened, and there is a very real possibiltiy that there wont be a club next season, most fans appear willing to accept anything, anything at all just so long as there is something left to support. If we somehow manage to scrape out of this hell hole - it will be interesting to see if the grass is any greener (npi) on the other side.
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To be honest I actually never thought that I would see the day that we come to this. But come to this we have - and many people on here advocated administration, believing there would be a queue of super rich people all waiting to snap us up. The early signs actually bore them out - what was it 35 plus intersted parties. But actually now, when we have to cut to the chase, what is there, nothing, zilch, naff all - there appears to be only LLS. Therefore much as I hate the prospect of what this might bring - I have to wish him all the best and hope that he comes through. To answer some of your points though - during the Bournemouth thing there was mention there of a 'post' - memory fades but I do actually think manager or assistant manager was mentioned - which or course is a little scarey. Like you - I too have also noted that MLT appears quiet at the moment - I fear that Pinnacle have fallen by the wayside and that Matt maybe ready to just play ambassador to any parties that he feels can do the deal. Where all of this leaves us - god only knows - dont you long for the good old days when you could sprout lines like 'The futures bright the futures Red n White'. Right now the future - if we have one - appears pretty damn bleak from where I'm sitting.
