SaintBobby

Unbelievable. Mitchell is out of control, but I'm not quite sure what Bournemouth fans demands now are? They're a pretty small club. Nothing wrong with that at all. But I would think staying in League One would be an achievement and they'll eventually settle down as a League Two or possibly even a Blue Square team. In general, they don't seem to have been particularly gracious for Saints' help in the past and were so above themselves last season, so - while I basically couldn't give a monkey's about them - I'd have a nice chuckle if they went through a miserable period. Their fans certainly need taking down a peg or three.

It is, however, technically possible to get a 155 break (although, I suspect Gemmel may be exaggerating his best ever score....) If you're awarded a free ball before any reds have been potted, you could sink a colour and then the black for 8 points before going on to clear the table for a further 147. Does anyone know if a break in excess of 147 has ever been achieved? My own best is a dismal 26...

Somebody - anybody - please, please, pelase make this thread stop.

No thanks.

My pre-season prediction was 10th. But I'm now thinking more optimistic...maybe playoffs.

That would certainly help our drive to cement a final position in the top 17.

That Walsall thread was a hilarious read. I think it's absolutely okay to call people up when they've been proven wrong. FWIW, I think I was prediciting 2nd place from about game 15 onwards. I was right on this, but wld be happy to be pulled up on anything I was wrong about (I think at one point I said we needed 20 more points to clinch 2nd place and it turned out to be 22). Of course, people say daft things imemdiately after a disappointing defeat (or amazing victory), but I think it's fine to call them up for it. It gives you a good steer as whose views to listen to/take seriously in future.

Probably not. Did you call the police? You can't be too careful these days.

You can't be more definitive than that. If an Everton fan said something about Everton's supposed transfer behaviour, well, it must be true.

Have not been a fan of having him back. But....if he's a free agent and keen to come, there's no downside risk is there? (assuming salary demands are reasonable). Perhaps just let him train with us or maybe a pay-as-you play deal or conceivably a signing for 3 months until the next transfer window?

Just left the ground. Stunning 2nd half display. Unfortunately, each Leics goal was scored at just the wrong time. They are quite a fragile team based on this. Poss play off candidates, but not much better. If Saints can keep up this sort of display, I think we can finish in the top 17:-) De Ridder shld be considered as a starter for us. We perhaps lack a turn of pace w/o him.

Awful gking by KD. He had to come for it.

Well, you're just a happy clappy, head-in-the-clouds, deluded Cortese worshipper, then. I think we'd be lucky to add to our present tally of 12 points this season to be honest. Especially given we didn't sign any decent players in June.

I want Saints to do well. But I fear we are hurtling towards relegation. Is that agreeable enough?

I would consider that a breach of my freedom of speech. This is suppsoed to be a discussion forum, right?

Agreed. I think we will finish between 22nd and 24th. No higher than 19th. Unless we sign Messi. I also think that our average attendance will be exactly 21,368. Furthermore, I predict that Honey Monster and Tony the Tiger will burst out from their cereal packets and form our central defence before the transfer window closes. You may disagree with this analysis, but I have a perfect right to my opinion.

Good advice. And I'd also like to point out that two diagnoses you put forward are not mutually exclusive.

It's pretty simple isn't it? Crowds went down under Lowe because: 1. Saints were performing poorly and playing crap football AND 2. There were substantial organised protests and boycotts against Lowe It seems to me impossible to quantify the exact number separately attritubatable to factor 1 as opposed to factor 2. Nevertheless, on any remotely feasible like-for-like comparison, Saints are a far better supported club than Portsmouth. It's impossible to ever get an exact comparison - as the two clubs aren't ever going to be at exactly the same position in the league, with exactly the same boardroom politics going on, playing exactly the same quality of football at exactly the same time. However, we can clearly say that if things are even remotely equal then Southampton's levels of attendance are very dramatically and markedly higher than Portsmouth's. Comparisons were hard when we were at the Dell - because even if we sold out every match and had 50,000 baying fans queueing round the block, our average attendance would only be 15,000. Similarly if Fratton Park was selling out every game, comparisons would be difficult because you wouldn't know how many more fans Porstmouth could accommodate if they had a greater capacity. But as they are not tending to get remotely close to filling their ground, it is clear that Fratton's capacity is not diminishinmg their numbers. They remain one of many clubs teetering on the brink of financial disaster and avoiding entering adminsitration again before the end of the season will require some very fancy footwork. In the long term, they are probably viable as a middling League One team with some forays into the Championship. Saints long-term future is probably between bottom half of Premiership and top half of Championship.

There's absolutely no rational reason or evidence to suggest we will finish as low as 17th. I keep asking Dalek to place a bet with me - but he goes surprisingly quiet each time. The markets have us at 98% to finish in the top 12, and that seems about right to me. We'd be about 99.8% to finish in the top 16. I do think the odds on us winning the league (5/1) or beign promoted (2/1) are a bit short though.

Echo points out a couple of records/near records http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/9208865.Another_record_falls_on_day_Saints_boss_reaches_his_century/

Does anyone care that our third string keeper is pretty damned cr@p? I'm happy to have a Conference South quality goalkeeper as our back-up. If either Kelvin or Bart got seriously injured, we'd seek to bring in someone on loan, I'd imagine.

No. If we'd been crowned champions already, we wouldn't be 5/1 against to wint he title, would we? As it is, we're about evens to finish in the top six and about 100/1 to finish in the bottom six or seven. Our points spread is around 77-78. Of course, we could still finish bottom with just 12 points from 46 games. Are you still offering that £100 bet that we finish outside the top sixteen? As posted previously, I'd like to place a wager please. HTH.

Ah sorry, of course. I saw your quote out-of-context... Apols.

Lol. Spectacularly wrong predictions by Dalek and delldays. I still can't see that we can keep up the present level of results (well, obviously we can't...we won't win all 46 league games...) But a swift check of the odds shows: 1. We are now second favourites to win the league at about 5/1 2. We are about 2/1 to be promoted 3. We are 1/50 to finish in the top 12. I'm assuming from point 3, that if there was a market, we'd be about 1/100 on being in the top 16. Predicting that Saints will finish 17th or worse is about equivalent to predicting that Man Utd will lose all of their next three home league games. In other words, a very, very wild long shot.