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Because my version is backed up by direct quotes from Cedric. https://www.ibtimes.co.in/cedric-soares-reveals-receiving-proposals-leave-southampton-764789 Now tell me which one is more likely to be telling the truth? A player with absolutely no reason to lie, or the club trying to appease and already disillusioned fan base? "oh we did everything we could, honestly we did but we had to sell him"
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So we didn’t sell on our terms then, we had little choice but to sell. Aside from that we didn’t tell them to eff off, That’s not actually true it’s the spin out out by the club. We were prepared to sell in the summer along with Cedric who was also negotiating a move away but when the takeover by Gao started to go through the deal was put back. Cedric knuckled down Van Dijk sulked and behaved like a ****. Up to you if you believe me or not, I know as a cheerleader for the club you’ll want to believe we bullied Liverpool into coughing up £75m but it ain’t true.
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Sold him on our terms a couple of days before the window opened, we were so reluctant to sell we sold him before we even could? Sold him on our terms after he'd sulked, played awfully for most of the season and been a pain in the arse behind the scenes? Sold him on our terms after saying he wasn't for sell? Sold him on our terms after pronouncing when Hoedt signed he was here to play alongside Van Dijk? Because call me cynical but i'd say that if there is one thing we didn't do, it was sell him on our terms.
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Maybe we need relegation like we needed administration...
Turkish replied to alpine_saint's topic in The Saints
If you can’t understand that premier league is 100% set up for the big 4-6 clubs to succeed at the expense of everyone else then you are even more dense than I thought you were and that is some achievement. -
He’s really benefited from the coaching of Dave Watson. He’s been transformed from Reading and Palaces back up keeper to first choice premier league and international keeper. All credit to Watson and course Les Reed and Ross Wilson for spotting McCarthys potential when no one else did.
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I would say that the average poster is overwhelmingly a clueless dinlow with no idea what they are talking about. Some outstanding examples of this include Calum Chambers being described as the new Bobby Moore Jake Sinclair, last seen playing at Mangotsfield United, our next great academy hope Writing off Pele after seeing him play in his first preseason friendly after signing Being obsessed with a member of the back off team, mentioning his name on virtually ever post despite him leaving 4 years ago
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Steve Bruce is a manager we have always admired. We have tracked his progress for years. He was always our first choice for the role when it became available. We believe Steve is the man whose owner values match those of the club and we strongly believe he is the man to return successful, attacking football to the club. Les Reed March 2019.
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I am disappointed at your lack of knowledge here CB Fried (PMSL) It was in 2002 and it was to win the Oxfordshire Benevolant cup. Disapointingly our FA CUp final defeat against Arsenal prevented us from become the first team ever to record the historic double of an FA Cup and Oxford Benevolent cup victory in the same season.
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It’s interesting to notice a few months ago when we made some early signings this was hailed as evidence Les had been moved to one side, Hughes wasn’t letting him balls up transfers and someone else was in charge. Now those signings haven’t been brilliant straight away it’s all reeds fault
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He wasn't. I know 100% he wasn't and the director who told the board admins is highly likely to be the same one who told someone I know very, very well that there would be a number of names linked with buying the club leaked to the press and fans to try to attract investors and push a couple of people who genuinely were interested at that time. I'm not going to say who it was that told me this but they are someone I have known for over 20 years and was very close to the club at the time.
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I used to love the days when we would read that on here, how the league cup and the FA Cup were beneath us with our one trophy in 133 years.
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Puel didn't take over a team that had finished 6th, he took over a club that had finished 6th. That team had been stripped of his two leading goalscorers, it's best defensive midfielder and had Fonte causing issues behind the scenes. Then in January he left and Van Dijk got injured. The team that finished 6th had been stripped of arguably five its best players by the mid point of the season. The team MP took over had only lost 2 in 9 games, we were fifteenth when he took over, we finished, errr 14th. The following season he added Wanyama and Lovren to the team, Rodriguez, Lambert, Lallana, Shaw and Clyne all had a years experience in the premier league and got international recognition that season. He had a midfield of Schniderlin and Wanyama, at the time one of the best central midfield pairs in the league. I'm not suggest Pochetino was a bad manager, hes a very good one and did good job here, but I would argue that the team Pochetino had was much better than the one Puel had in his season here. It's blindingly obvious to anyone that the team Koeman had was also far surperior player for player. You say we spent a lot of money, but that's not down to Puel, it was the board and can you name a single signing that was better than the player they replaced? Mane and Pelle scored 29 goals between them in Koemans last season, Austin, Redmond and Boufal scored 19. Even adding Gabbiadini into the mix in January his 6 goals still left us 4 short of Mane and Pelles total. The fact that under 3 seperate managers Austin cant stay fit, Redmond has never really delivered and Boufal is out on loan says it wasn't Puels bad management that is the problem with those signings. So perhaps the players didn't like him, but those same players who got him sacked then carried on being d*cks for Pellegrino, who whilst being a terrible manager showed that it was Puels personality that was the issue. As I said above Puel was by no means perfect but facts are facts. He got a bad hand and despite some bad results his one season here was one of the best we've ever had in terms of final league position and performances in the cup competitions.
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his results were awful? He finished 8th and got us to a cup final. If you look at the overall results in his season with us compared to Pochetinos only full season then Puel did better. Yet Pochetino is a hero and Puel is boring, awful manager. if you're looking purely at results like you state then Puel is a genius and guided us to one of our greatest seasons ever despite having to play half the season without a decent centre back and no one who could score a goal. So based on that he did a great job compared to Pochetino, he also did better than some of what went before him, if you're only going to look at results of course. You say I highlighted some good results when Puel was here and don't mention the bad ones. Well there were back ones under Pochetino and Puel as well. People forget under the brilliant Pochetino we lost 1-0 at home against soon to be relegated Cardiff, at Christmas time we went on a run of only 1 in in 9 games, we got knocked out of both cups by the dreadful sunderland who we also needed a last minute equaliser against to nick a point at home in the league. Under Koeman we went on a run where we lost 6 out of 8 games, people were starting to call for his head, that same season we also suffered our biggest home defeat in decades and went out of the FA cup with a home loss to Crystal Palace. We finished 6th that season due to the terrible performances of Chelsea and Liverpool. Yet everyone looks back on that period as a an era where we were ripping the league up smashing teams left right and centre every week. The reality is that the end results are pretty comparable and there were some very good performances and some bad ones for all 3 managers, the difference being Pochetino and Koeman both had far better squads and far better players than Puel did.
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You're right I did. But I also said that it was against my better judgement and he deserved to be judged at the end of the season. I also said that it was due to the whispers i'd heard he'd lost senior members of the dressing room and when that happens its a case of when and not if. IIRC that poll was also done right towards the end of poor run of results, we'd just lost at home to West Brom, been thumped by Spurs and Everton so that probably influenced the vote as per my comments above I didn't vote out because we were supposedly playing boring football. You're right, hindsight is a great thing, in hindsight over the course of the season Puel did a decent job in difficult circumstances. I later said that I thought he should have got another season but of course you wont desperately try to find posts from over two years ago saying that because it doesn't suit your agenda.
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Nice rewriting of history, as there has been a lot with Puel era. Mongboard myth becomes fact doesn't it. As for you any you obviously don't know what you're on about as we didn't lose to Be'er Sheeva, you cant even get the name of the team right! If people actually bothered to look at the games rather than jumping on the Puel was boring bandwagon, they'll see it was far from what the make out. If we had a striker who could stick the ball in the net we'd have handed Milan their arses in the San Siro, we absolutely battered them for an hour, missing about 5 or 6 great chances that we really should have scored. Was the league cup final like having your toenails pulled out with a rusty pair of pliers? or the wins home and away against Liverpool, away at Arsenal, home to Milan, Prague, away at Sunderland, Watford, West Ham. There were a lot of games where we did play some very good stuff, in fact the fact of the matter the time the football arguably was dull was when he had to play the worst pair of centre halves in the league after Van Dijk got injured and Fonte got sold and not replaced (blame the board for that one). Yes there were some dull games, but there were some dull games under Koeman too. On a like for like basis didn't Koeman set up with a very defensive, long ball style away at Midtjylland? The only difference being we did actually lose that one. People make out week in week out we were playing brilliant attacking football under Koeman scoring a hatful of goals every week, they forget how truly terrible we were away at Norwich, Palace, Bournemouth etc and at home to Stoke, Everton, Sunderland (2nd season he was here, clearly) and so on. At one point after a dreadful run of form around christmas some fans wanted him out. Puel got the results he did after having our two best sources of goals in Pelle and Mane sold and replaced with Austin who spent half the season injured and Redmond and Boufal, neither of which delivered. Our best defensive midfielder was sold and replaced with Hojberg who still even now isn't a nailed on starter. Then to cap it all our best defender missed half the season with injury, our other one was sold and not replaced and our leading goalscorer missed 4 months of it. Puel was by no means perfect but there is a hell of a lot of rewriting of history when it comes to his time here. To be blunt fans didn't like him from day one because he wasn't Koeman and because they wanted a bigger name (that's another argument) and that's what it came down too. They moaned about his interviews, they moaned about his tactics and formation and now people talk a lot of sh*te about how boring we were to watch when if people actually took the performances over the season and the circumstances he had to deal with rather than they'd realise he actually did a very good job.
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Harry Redknapp has unfinished business with this proper football club.
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There is Some Logic Behind Why I'm Worried About This Season
Turkish replied to vrotherham1964's topic in The Saints
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I think that a ticket stub from a saintsv Coventry game over 30 years ago is probably the most random item I’ve ever seen anyone search for and I confidently predict that in ten years time you will still be looking for the item I wish you well in your search and hope You are succsssful
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Trust me my friend in my next sortie into Krugerland I’ll be lauding it up on the Porcini ravioli. Washed down with a crisp fiano my partner and I couldn’t think of a more appetising starter to proceed a main course of premier league soccerball. As we mulled over the current excellent state of our corporate governance We made sure that we said a world of Thanks to Mr Kruger for making our match day experience second to none.
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I thought it was fantastic. It’s great that the club are moving to the future with a nod to the past. Anyone who knows their history will know that st marys was built on an old gas works site and many of our supports will have ansestors who work on this site so to be able to reminisce about days and family from another era whilst enjoying the fine and extensive range of food stuffs availabable in comfortable surroundings is wonderful. My partner and I arrived there two hours before the game and was pleased to see prices reasonable enough to provide value for money but high enough to keep out the riff raff. Very few bloated, shirt wearing fans talking inane drivel, I was happy to see the clientele was more like a mid market wine bar with hopefully the lower end of our fan base will remain in city centre public houses glugging on pints of carlsberg. After enjoy a finally grilled burger and three Hendricks and tonics we took our seats in the itchen stand to take in the excellent prematch display of lights and pyros. The game itself was highly entertaining and on at least 4 occasions I was compelled to applaud the efforts of the Southampton and Brighton players. It’s wonderful the club are doing so much to improve the match day experience for the customer base and more evidence Of the incredible job Mr Kruger is and his team are doing. Mr Gao will be delighted with his investment. I for one will be returning very soon.
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To be blunt the bar was very low to improve on Pellegrino. Hughes is an upgrade which is more than can be said for most of our business since 2016 but that’s not saying much. Our ambition now is to stay in the premiership whilst returning a profit from transfers and given his previous Hughes is probably The man for the job. Tonight was quite Entertaining despite the inevitably of Brightons soft goal five minutes after our second then their late equaliser, it played out exactly as the tv cameras would want it. Shanghai leisure Holdings have nailed it. Not quite ****e enough to go down and entertaining enough to make dull games for The TV audience worth watching. This season will prove to be a triumph for the business that we are now, China will applaud our plucky, small club status of battling to beat the odds. Fans over here will celebrate clinging onto our premier league status and we will go again next summer, Spending just enough to survive, returning a profit to the board and some corporate marketing “we march on” bull**** propaganda to make all our fans think we really do want to do well but it’s just so so tough these days.
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Who plays alongside Ings vs Brighton?
Turkish replied to Ivan Katalinic's 'tache's topic in The Saints
I'd definitely start with Gallagher. He spent two season in the championship being a below average striker failing to score regularly so I think he has every chance of making the step up to do that in the premier league, he could slot seamlessly into the role the injured Shane Long plays for us. -
It wasn’t that long ago some of our fans were proclaiming “champions league or nothing!” The league cup and the FA Cup was beneath us in those days. They all wanted a 4th placed finish rather than actually winning something, incredible. As you say there is some truth in the article, the premier league is like all the other major leagues in Europe Harlem globetrotters v Washington generals. In the premier league we are all cannon fodder for the big boys. We are all meant to stand back admire the brilliant vision of 20 yard passe whilst the sky pundits tell us how amazing it all is. There is a lot wrong at saints and has been for s couple of years so we haven’t helped ourselves but the game isn’t set up for clubs likes saints to succeed and the people running the game don’t want us too.
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Fulham and wolves are the new Stoke, we should all wish we were them, yes?
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Lambert v Pompey FA Cup sharp V Pompey league 2nd goal Long at anfield Gabbiadinis second at Wembley Pahars equaliser at the Dell 3-3 v Liverpool 2000 Le Tiss last goal at the Dell
