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8 people down but 1300 saints fans. Wigan brought around 700 and Sunderland borough around 2000. As for west ham being so unattractive there was me thinking people go to watch saints and not the opponents. It didn't stop them being attractive opposition on a Wednesday night in a Lower league 2 season ago where a record crowd saw us play them. £35m spent and 7th in the league and we can't sell out.

We were willing to sell the summer we got promoted. Don't believe it if you don't want to, but it's true.

P It's not about that though is it. It'll be about maximising the return on him, if we sold him now for £4m then I'm sure Cortese would think its excellent business. Cue lots of wailing that if Andy Carroll is worth £15m Rickie is worth £5 billion•.

It's the not the first time we were willing to sell so this wouldn't surprise me. Although I'm sure I'll be told in wrong on that and such a claim is outrageous without any proof. Two things here though, firstly he's recently signed a new contract and any club wanting him will have to pay him a similar amount and secondly as much as we love him what clubs are there who would be willing to pay the salary and transfer fee and give him the contract he'd want for a player in his 30s? It'll be a lower table club if any. As good as Rickie is and as much as I love him I can't think there will be many takers that can offer him first team football and the afford him. Perhaps west ham and maybe Sunderland.

Yep spot on. I've said this before myself. If the club are charging as much as possible and betting about 90-95% capacity then they've priced it right from their point of view. Why do they care if people can't afford to go every week when 90% of people in the ground can or will make themselves able.

What an amazing coincidence that all the people that didn't turn up all sat In the same area!

We sold out our game against West Ham in the championship yet were 3.5k short this season. We were still in recession in 2011 and we were playing at a lower level without £70m worth of talent added since then, so its not the standard of football either.

Wigan: 29,604 Man U: 31,609 Villa: 30,713 This season: Sunderland: 29, 596 West Ham: 28,794 Palace: Look like being around the 30-31k mark. Yes we got more for Man United than West Ham but the other two are worrying. Sunderland brought more fans than Wigan did so there were around 1,000 less Saints fans in the ground. Despite being 7th Crystal Palace is looking far from a sell out. Holiday time is over. Are there still lots of surprise birthday parties for great aunties in September? Depsite spending another £35m and having a team packed full of internationals apathy seems to be reigning supreme on the south coast.

It seems to me the ones that seem to be maintaining he's brilliant are the ones that dont go to games very often.

I warned about this when we were tracking him and everyone was getting excited. I watch a lot of Italian football and when I was visiting my friend in Bologna I went to see Bologna v Bari. Ramirez was awful, gave the ball away 32 times, didn't tackle and ducked out of 12 50/50s, missed an open goal and a penalty and got substituted after 50 minutes. He looked disinterested and didn't run around a lot so knew it wouldn't be long before the fans here said he was sh*t. Of course I was told I was trolling and being a WUM. WTFILN?

Lazy, lying scumbag journos.

You're scraping the barrell using the daily fail. Lying, vile, racist scum paper.

My mate supplies all the booze to them and chose the wine menu for them. I shall be sure to give him your feedback!

I always rated Ennios, superb if you like Italian food.

By the way Brett, I hope you don't consider Casa Brazil to be 'top end'! Of course for the best curry in town then it has to be corriander Lounge.

Predictive text on my phone and i cant be arsed to change it. I see you've done your usual thing though and contributed nothing except moan about other posters. So well done for that.

Are you pleased with Watfords start to the season? How's your dad? He doesnt post on here as often as he used too.

Take diving for penalties out of youngs game and I'm not sure what else he brings to the table. I'm not on of the cleverly bandwagon jumpers, I think he's quite decent but you'd have to say Lallana certainly isnt any worse than what is in the squad based on his form this season.

Been to the one in Glasgow several times and its very good, pretty much echo what Krackers says. The glazed pork coated in Parmesan is superb. Don't go mad on the stews and potatoes at the salad bar and pace yourself and its money well spent.

Join their facebook group and do it that way. https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/2450705627/?fref=ts

Loved him as a player, was fantastic to watch and is a character that the game needs. However I wouldn't want him as a manager of my club it was a really strange decision to appoint him, then let him spend millions and sack him so early. Sunderland seem to me like a club that is on a self destruct mission, wouldn't be at all surprised to seem them relegated this season or next whoever is charge.

When was this? He was fantastic last season.

Yes I was surprised to see that. It was a bit backs to the wall for 10-15 minutes after the goal but the last 15 were comfortable, kept the ball well and played some good stuff. Thought we defended superbly yesterday, Liverpool ran out of ideas and of steam at the end and apart from the usual 'this is saints, we're bound to mess it up' worries, we never looked In any sort of trouble.

If there is one bloke I'm gonna believe when it comes to the ins and outs behind the scenes of a premier league football club, itsa fat bloke that fell on his arse doing a half time relay that works in Mcdonalds.

He does actually. The first bit, not the second bit.