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So what you are saying in a round about way is that some of our academy players will make it and some won't, yes?

Just out of interest what percentage of income comes from match day revenue from English clubs currently playing in th champions league, does anyone know? As this will give us a strong indicator as to if expanding SMS will help us to benefit from these FFP rules.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I'm just using the argument that the shall we call them, ambitious posters use. They all claim we can get there because Cortese is investing and Lowe didn't. Yet on the other hand claim the FFP will help us, which actually rules this out to a certain extent. Maybe our 'ambitious posters' can help you answer your questions.

Davis cost £8 only 4 years ago, would be decent. No better than Bart, course not.

I think you're right in as much as that spending on infrastructure and academy is excluded so it's great that we are investing in the academy and certainly if we can keep producing another Bale, Chamberlain or Walcott every three or four years that will certainly provided some extra revenue from player sales. I can see how the FFP rules will help us establish ourselves again in the premier league as a midtable club, I don't seem how it will help realise our champions league dreams like some seem to believe. In fact it's strange that on the one hand people will say that we will get there because Cortese is investing, yet then on the other hand say the FFP will help us because it means rich owners can't spend millions the club doesn't have.

I think most of us normal people think the same. 5-8th every season and a good shot at the cups would be a great achievement and a realistic aim. The feet stamping, finger in ear "the champions league is possible , it is, it is, it is" brigade are seriously deluded.

So actually, in terms of our champions league aspirations they are a hindrance not a help?

What's the situation with the debt under these laws? From what I can see most clubs in the PL are in debt.

The bottom line is though, that you can't spend more than you earn. So in reality all it will mean is the clubs with the biggest stadiums, merchandise and commercial revenues will continue to have more income than middle sized Premier League clubs like Saints, with no way of ever catching up, no?

I'm typing this from the M3 following the players taxis to Heathrow wearing my Saints shirt.

Take a look for yourself. A net total of almost £70m in the period I mentioned. £38m on incoming money from the sale of Barry and Milner, which makes them a massive club based on Les Benders view that if you receive these sort of fees it means you should be challenging for the champions league. £70m net spend, to finish 6th. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/aston-villa-transfers.html

Had a lot of comments on here that this will make it more a of a level playing field and will help Saints so perhaps we could have it explained how this is so. Also if they help Saints why we were one of three clubs, the other two who funnily enough have wealthy owners as well, who voted against the being introduced in the championship. O if we could have a clear explanation of them from our experts on here and how they help saints that would be great as I am clearly missing something.

Why?

Aston Villa sold Downing, Milner, Barry and Young for more than Cisse cost aNd spent 16m in Bent and are fighting a relegation battle. Based on your theory why aren't they fighting for 4th spot instead of relegation? Do you see?

Aston Villa spent Over £120m on transfers between 2008 and 2011 and never finished higher than 6th and are fighting a relegation battle this season. How do you propose we do better?

The usual bullsh*t on here whenever anyone starts these champions league or ground expansions. Oh look at Chelsea in 1980. Look at Man United in 1974. Cortese is investing. The financial playing field is being levelled which will help us (how exactly?) Cortese said he wants champions leavue football when we were in league one. when we have our 45k stadium it'll all be different. Everton did it once. Something about it being possible, it is, it is to say it isn't is a lack of ambition. It's entirely possible anything is, they said man would never climb Everest.

I hope you get your picture.

Behave yourself, we were never league one relegation candidates. Don't forget everyone expected us to run away with the league one title last season, promotion was the minimum requirement. this season has been great and far more than we could have hoped for in August, but the champions league is a million miles away and the stuff of dreamers, of which there seems to be plenty on here.

Sorry, which teams that were "dominating" 10 years go have slipped down a division now?

Guly will win that.

You're forgetting about man walking on the moon and all that.

I got told Cortese cancelled it because someone who was invited told the echo.

/\ surely the ability and fitness of the players and managers is more important than the age, yes?

You just know its going to happen. You'll have helmets hanging around the airport in their saints shirts just waiting to greet the players off the plane in their fake American accent which retains a hampshire twang "oi Rickie mush, can I 'ave a picture for me nipper"

Sounds like a character from a Bond film.