Turkish

So were you if you read page one of this thread.

What a wierdo dragging this one up. Excuse me for being disappointed we were utterly shi*e his time last year.

If they had invited you to the meal Um you could have put forward a compelling case to be our fan on the board.

To be fair, i'd forgotten about that. You are of course correct. Just more evidence about how we are influenced by the media.

Westender

Spot on.

That's interesting. The media have been reporting it for years as a racist attack, ramming it down our throats yet two key witnesses didn't hear any racist language at all. Media propganda? Surely not. now of course the flip side of this which hasn't been reported and everyone hasn't been sucked into is that rather than Stephen Lawrence being a lovely lad and an innocent bystander murdered because he was black, some people have said he was actually smack dealing scum who was "serving up" at one of the local schools. He was murdered in an attack because he had been pushing drugs on one of the defendants family members. We have no idea of course if this is true or not and i am not suggesting it is, i am merely saying what an alternative to scenario to what the media have reported may have been. If you believe some people on here none of us have been influenced by what have been reported in the papers and nether has any jury.

It's not the first time people have jumped down my throat incorrectly assuming something so comes as no surprise. What you say is correct, social justice is one thing the british justice system is quite another. Some people might bury their heads in the sand but unless you've lived in a bubble you cant not have heard about the Stephen Lawrence case and how guilty the accused in court apparantly are. If they are found guilty then no one will shead any tears of course, but will they be found guilty because a media hungry for a conviction have influenced the verdict? Probably.

Our fan on the baord would probaly chose this for himself

Verbal again. [video=youtube;Fb-3seZSQ_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb-3seZSQ_Q&ob=av2n

Dune

me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBeT4ptY9sY

Saint andy666

So what are your thoughts on their guilt?

he thinks everyone is racist, or at least implies it in amoungst his patronising drivel. He accused me of being racist once because i had papa lazarou from the league of gentlemen as my avatar. Apparantly this was conclusive evidence. He has suggested Griffo is this week and now yourself. I wouldn't worry yourself to much about what he thinks. It'll probably come as no surprise to you that he needs to see therapists to cope with just surviving day to day. You're not dealing with someone of a sane and right mind individual, incase that much wasn't already obvious already.

Are you sure? usually you are very good at telling people what they are thinking.

FFS here we go again. *puts on white pointy hat and waits for Verbal to accuse the world of being racist again*

I'm taking the fact that everybody on this thread thinks they are guilty, based on what they've read in the papers. Everyone i work with thinks they are guilty based on this same "evidence" You said yourself you think they are based on a much publicised police enquiry. So why would a jury be any different? I'm 34 and Jackanory is around 30 from memory and we remember the original trial and all that's followed it so so much for your "the jury wont remember the original trial" nonsense. IF we want to get the views of a couple of younger people then Super Mikey and Saintandy666 would be welcome to give their views as an example of what younger people think and how they have come to this opinion.

Dont be so harsh on yourself.

Verbal Super Mikey [video=youtube;N_wQOiy-fhU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_wQOiy-fhU

I think anyone that doent need proffesional assistance to get through the day can see that I am not talking about a John Grisham style jury. unless they've been living on Mars for the last 20 years they would know about this case and potentially be influenced by the media coverage. Afterall, we all have been. If you can't understand that then you might want to up the dose.

Do us all a favour and stop being naive. Unless they've been living on mars for the last 20 hrs they'd know about this case, everyone has a view on it. They can't help be influenced even if they haven't made up their minds 100% most of us have.

So if you were on the jury you would think they are guilty. Which proves my point originally that the jury will be unlikely to unbiased. Remember oh great one, i wasn't asked if i thought they were guilty or not, or if they deserve to be hung or not. I was asked what i thought of the trial and if I would be an unbiased jury member, It seems none of us would be. Maybe you should have a word with you therapist to help you deal with jumping to conclusions and making accusations without reading & understanding things properly.

What is your view on their guilt? How have you reached such a view? I know what my view is and if i was on the jury what i would be thinking and what most people on this thread think. We weren't there, we didn't see it, we haven't seen all the evidence. So how have we reached our conclusions? Why would a jury member be any different? Even if it is only subconciously? Come on, you love telling peole what they think.

I think they are guilty as f*ck and deserve to hang. But i wasnt asked that, i was asked what i though of the trial and if i would be a biased jury member.