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Course not. But i was asked my opinion on the trial ad if i was on the jury would i be biased at the top of the thread, so i gave my reply. Not on if i thought they were guilty or not.

and that's the point. The prosecution have to prove that they DID do it. In this case you get the impression due to the media that the defendants have to prove that they DIDN'T. That isn't how the justice system in this country works. 99.9% of the country think they are guilty because what they've read in the papers and seen on TV. You've just got to look at this thread to realise that. Which means that it is highly likely any jury will be biased, even if it is only subconciously.

No, i'm not saying that and i dont know what the answer is. Does the fact that they have been in the dock twice and not convicted also mean that there isn't enough evidence for conviction? The new forensic evidence is flimsey to say the least. This is what i mean it's a minefield and any jury will be influcenced one way or another, they've already been warned to ignore the publicity the case has had for the last 17 years. The whole point of a trial by jury is that it's fair and for an impartical group of people to reach a verdict based on the evidence in front of them. When for god knows how long it's been all over the media "they are guilty, they are guilty!!" then it's impossible not to be influenced. The media are demanding a guilty verdict, which is wrong. And dont for one minute think i am trying to defend them. A lad has lost his life and those that did it deserve to be punished, but not through the press demanding it because it's been in the public eye so long.

Given your history of telling me what i think then it's quite reasonable to think it was aimed at me. Did you smoke too much weed as a teenager? SOmething is playing havoc with your warped mind. BTW to answer your question i think there should be a media ban on all high profile cases to avoid influencing the jury and the indenties of all accused kept from the public until conviction, regardless of the offence. Unless they are black of course.

I wondered how long it would take.

You should be flattered we think of you that way. You are the Helen Mirren of TSW.

Surely the fantasy of Verbal and BTF on the job is adequate compensation and masterbation fuel for months though?

I got a written warning from a job i had in about 1997 for calling club call about 5 times a day for a couple of weeks.

It's impossible to do that though. Everyone in the country has a view on it, people on here are convinced they are guilty having seen the media coverage. As you say, they may feel under pressure to find them guilty because of the issues around it. On the flip side some might find them innocent because of the media frenzy around it, either way, they are highly likely to be influcenced one way or another.

Well as i wasn't "making a fuss" i wouldn't "make a fuss" about that either. But if i was asked a question as to what my view on a trial by media for peadophiles, then i'd answer it. It's not like you to slip subtle accusations of racism into a thread though, you need to get your therapist to work a bit harder on your paranoia.

Clubcall is quality. I remember years ago they announced we had signed Alan Armstrong from Stockport on for him to join Middlesborough the next day.

I was answering a question put to me, not "making a fuss".

to be fair he isn't going to come out and say "Jack has made a right f*ck up joining Southampton, i told him not to but he wouldn't listen" is he.

* puts on kettle, sits back and waits to be told what mental problems and prejudices we have today*

I hope that wasn't aimed at me. Dont forget you convinced me a while ago i hate black people due to my avatar. I think they should be given medals for services to England, not banged up, based on what you have told me i think, of course.

You've missed the boat there mate. If anyone on here is going to hang out the back of BTF it's Verbal.

Bet he wishes he had something else like an Elephant as well......

You're not though are you Pal. You've got yourself a mighty fine therapist to help you understand yourself.

It's trial by media. There is no way people cannot be influenced one way or the other by what they have seen and heard in the press on this and every other high profile case. Remember the burden of proof is on the prosecution, they have to PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that they did it. There are people on here saying they know they did, so no doubt there will be people on the jury that will do and will have been influcened by the years and years of press coverage. You then have a situation where those on the jury will have to be convinced that they ARENT guilty, which isn't what British justice is supposed to be. I have my own views on the case based on what i have seen and heard in the media so of course i'd be biased. No one knows other than those involved, we can only assume based on what the media have told us.

What a load of nonsense these things are. Only work in a black and white, scenario based situation. Anyone that gives themselves a round of applause for getting the result they think they should be is clearly blagging the answers.

That doesn't change when you get to work mate, just get paid for it and overtime learn to hide it well.

The Brazil 1970 team, anything less is a lack of ambition.

What are you on about mate? WE are the new Barcelona FFS. We are Southampton, we'll sign who we want.

Never going to happen. Next silly rumour please. Only 2 1/2 months until the Jan window shuts FFS.

OH dont worry about it mate, he does it all the time. He is the bastion of racial equality, the guardian of this forum is our Verbal, thats why we love him. Everyone on here is racist according to him. It's his self appointed role just to make us aware of it. When i had Papa Lazirou from League of Gentlemen as my avatar a while back it was down to Verbal to make me realise i didn't have it because it was a funny character from a comedy i like, i chose it because i subconsiously (although not now thanks to him) hated black people.