Turkish

He stops short of saying it's their right of passage though. Maybe you should comment and put him right

Yes i know where you mean. Went there both times we played them. The only EDL chanting i heard mentioned was outside the Salmon and Ball pub in Bethnal Green.

Did you tell them to shut the f*ck up?

Is this actually in Leyton?

Was this outside the Salmon and Ball pub in Bethnal Green? I remember a few chants there but dont recall anyone telling them to shut up.

I'm moving.

If it means we miss out on Gorkks or whatever his name is because of it, it's a stupid game. We should do the deal, get him off the payroll and get someone we need and who wants to be here on it.

Where in SO17 do you live? That is my postcode.

Where did you see that? Cant see anything on BBC or Sky.

I wonder if those condemn the Millwall lads for protecting their areas will do the same with the Sikhs and Turks. Fair play and respect to all of them.

By telling him he is wrong and putting him right with Mikeys surperior knowledge of the subject.

No, no mikey, not by proxy. I have first hand exprience of black youth culture in this country. But as already said, you have all the answers.

But strong enough to go around taking what isn't theres, playing the bad man and carrying guns and knives around.

Put it this way, they aren't my mates. And no, it's not because they're black before people use that one.

yes you could do and there were quite a few of them in my first hand experience as well, but there was a very high proportion compared to white people And what has what i've done got to do with anything?

No, i'm not myself an underprivileged black youth and Super Mikey isn't either. He asked if he had any direct experience of it and i have, I've spent a lot time around them and a very good mate of mine works with them on a daily basis, thanks all the same.

I do. And i can tell you know Super M that a lot of them thrive in the "bad man" image. They dont want to be anything other than the big man. That is coming from my own first hand experience and the tales of a mate of mine who is a youth worker in Walworth. Although i am sure if i pm'd you his number you'd be able to call him up and put him right.

The liberal elite on here will decided what is racist on here, okay SM.

What, do you mean the type of posters that describe burning down buildings, looting shops and destroying peoples livelihoods as a right of passage? That kind of saner member of TSW?

Are you really that think to realise that people cant decide for themselves if they want to become a criminal or not? That they get free education up the age of 18 and have every opportunity to be educated to at least A level standard for nothing. You really are rivally BTF for the forum Head stuck in the sand award.

Ta Ta then.

THis thread is what makes TSW great. The sheer head-in-the-sandness of some on here defies belief.

Doesn't stop people going into trades or industries where this doesn't matter though. There are 1000's of career paths out there. Prison and probation provide support on this. People have such great expectiations of how much they should earn and the careers they should have. The average wage in this country is about £25k, yet there is talk of benefits being capped at £25k. There really is no incentive for people to to work in lower paid jobs. There is a poor work ethic and high expectiton and materialistic culture in our country.

I didn't say i begrudge him his move, that is totally fair enough. If you check my posts in the past i've said i fully expect him to leave and understand his reasons. What i dont like is the way his dad and then him showed a lack of class and respect for SFC and it's fans by engineering the move via the press. And dont say he made a mistake, he's a kid etc, he's got advisors, agents, his old man was a pro footballer, they knew the score. Do you think he did that interview without speaking to any of the first? None of the other players you mentioned followed this course. Still if your happy for players to come out and basically say they dont want to play for us anymore and think they are too good for us then thats up to you.

Correct you do. However, there are companies out there that will take a punt on you if you are prepared to work hard and start at the bottom and show a bit of humility. There are always opportunites out there if you are prepared to take them. Another problem with these little mugs is their arrogance, they dont want to graft, dont want to work their way up, they want it all now and expect the rewards without putting in the effort.