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They think you are a 'nice guy' nothing more than a sympathy **** for girls will low self esteem that dont think they can get any better my friend. I knew it!

:lol::lol::lol: A first class fat, slightly funny, nice guy but not remotely attractive???!! Is he the type of guy that women say looks dont matter until he takes his top off and the big, fat, white, mountain of blubber comes towards them and then realise that they really could never go there again, that kind of a nice guy??!!

Oi! I was talking to Georgie not you, i will comment when she does.

Georgie, can i ask you a question. What is the attraction? I am struggling to work it out.

and a virgin.

no, no you're not, but you should higher standards, trust me

I dont want your cast offs tubby. Sorry Georige, but if this c*** is your standard then in the words of Peter Jones, i'm out.

You dont want a fat scruffy **** like that anyway Georgie, not when there is much better around, dont set your standards so low.

You see even now 'god' you just dont get it. Never once have i condoned their actions. my point all along has been, having seen first hand what happened that their sentances given out for the acts of throwing a stone or a coin, rattling a fence and in one case nothing more than shouting aggressively, were far to severe. I have said several times that i dont agree with what they did and they were stupid to get involved.

I'll have you know i've had a very stressful day today, i had to sky plus the jeremy Kyle show as i wanted to watch the fall out from Englands game yesterday. Its not easy having to get up before 9.15 you know, oh you probably have to everyday to go to work dont you :lol::lol: Anyhoo, i thought other people would be comparing you to god, or at the very least nickname you 'the second coming' what with you being a superior being and all that.

It is in my living memory it is, i remember '86 world cup, staying up late to watch games which Kicked off at 12am. People will argue that in '88 and '92 we didn't win a game or get out of the group stages but look at the teams we had to play. '88 in our group, Ireland who were starting a decent period for them, the USSR and Holland, the two finalists. In '92 Denmark the eventual winners, France and then Sweden the hosts. Would this England team have faired any better? I think they'd have struggled to get a goal let alone a point in those groups, considering we struggled in a group which at this level of competition could not have asked to be eaiser. We then get spanked by the only relatively decent team we play. Considering the opposition and the fact that this is 'the golden generation' this is the worst performance by an England team in a tournment, ever. I'm just glad we dont have to play the Argies, imagine what Messi and co would do to our back four.

You think you will be judging yourself then?

It wouldn't happen, how many English players have been a success abroad? Beckham, David Platt, Steve Mcmananan, Glen Hoddle after that i am stuggling in my football lifetime. The top foreign players in the PL would go abroad, but in the 90's the top players played in Italy and you could argue the England team was better then than it is now by a country mile.

I think your words were 'tell me your football qualifications (not champ manager), lets see what you really know.' - not implying that he knows nothing eh? I think that statement proves your guilt beyond reasonable doubt......... And of course i claim disability, otherwise those jokers down the dole office would have me on some training scheme, why on earth would i want to earn £15k as a labourer when i can do double that sitting on my arse. Feel sorry for you working hard today when i'll be out in the front garden on my deckchairs later, still lucky you are such a top bloke and are grafting for me. Does it annoy you, that effectively 25% of your working day is going in my pocket, although you being such a top bloke and all, you probably are inthe 40% bracket, more cider and fags for me!!!!

and those that i missed.... W- Welsh, the nationality of Joe Calzaghie, one of the great boxers these shores has ever produced, although he has Italian roots and was trained by an Italian whose training tips would not have included, giving up, backing down or quiting. Sometihng Mr Wilde could learn from U - Ultras, name give to Italian hooligans, particularly the rome based one are famous for having influcence over their clubs board rooms, also not known to suffer fools gladly, which is what they wouldn't have done to Mr Wilde

It isn't the pinnicle though is it. If England played in the premier league, based on the performances in this tournement they would be relegated, cutting them some slack as the players are better than their performances i still dont think England would qualify for the champions league. Capello and Erickson have decent records at club level, yet the best we got was quarter finals. When a manager of Capellos standard cant get the team to perform you seriously have to look at the players, who are simply not good enough, outclassed today by an average German side. This was supposed to be the golden gerneration remember, a team capable of actually bloody well winning something, it cant all be the fault of a succession of managers. However, It is the fault of the FA, the premier league have to much power and the whole of english football is geared towards making money and the premier league not the national team. Until they start focussing on developing young british players then we will get worse. It is embraassing that during this torunment the cream of English football at times looked so uncomfortable on the ball, couldn't pass sideways 15 yards and control was awful. An international manager is not responsible for fundemental weaknesses in supposedly international class players.

Didn't do too bad in Holland, remains to be seen how he gets on in Germany. Seriously, its not the manager, its an easy cop out to blame the manager, Hoddle, Sven, McClaren, etc. Capello has a first class record at club level, if he cant get them performing no one can. Well except for all of us experts on the internet of course.

(h) England never fought like a bunch of five year olds and let the germans destory them

would it make you feel better?

Thats the thing, Germany were good, but not outstanding, they just did the basics well. England were so poor defensively it was untrue, the first goal was like you see at a tyro under 11s game. I wonder what Smirking saint will have to say as yet again its another occasion when Englands players have been shown up for what they are when it matters.

spot on.

if anyone uses that as an excuse they are a moron. England didn't lose because of that, they lost because they were **** in 3 games, average in one, defended like 5 year old, cluesless going forward and a team full of arrogant, overrated players. How can a professional footballer at any level not be able to pass 15 yards when unchallenged?

hmmmmm maybe this was not so ridiculous afterall......

playing a player out of position is the most logical answer? The most logical answer would be that AP thinks Dickson is as good as or even a better player than Harding and wants two good players for every postion. Hence why he is rumoured to be after two right backs, why we have two good goalkeepers, 4 decent centre halves, why he wants a new striker to along with RL, LB & DC and new midfield players, 24 good players in a squad, not 11 good ones and 11 HCDAJFU's which would make us a lot weaker due to injuries, suspensions, tiredness. 46 games + 3 cups is a long old season.

You asked for his qualifications, implying that unless someone had studied football coaching and had qualifications then they know nothing. I'm sure Lawrie Mcmenemy and Brian Clough (RIP) never had any formal football qualifications but if you hold a entry level refeering badge then in your world you'd be more knowledgable than them. YOu have your own house?! Why do that when you can be on the dole and get a council one for nowt like me. Its ironic you'd spend yesterday installing a kitchen, i had the council stick a new one in for me over the last week, for nothing of course which you paid for and you also paid for the guy who fit it, didn't lift a finger myself as usual. In a round about sort of way you worked on my house yesterday too, thanks. What with me being a 16 year old school leaving, bitter, benefit, tax fiddling scum bag an' al'.