Turkish

One simple question. Are any of us going to feel safer at St Marys next season knowing that these 12 guys, who weren't know to Hampshire police as trouble makers, are behind bars?

Well do they have any 'previous'? if they dont then that suggests they are apart from one moment of madness. As far as i am aware only one or two do, so the vast majority would be considered law abising citizens, have jobs, families, etc which they risk losing because of 2 minutes of stupidity. But seriously, 14 months for throwing a plastic chair, 12 months for throwing a stone, stuck in prison in Parkhurst with murders, armed robbers etc, do you seriously think that is right?

95% of the people on here haven't got a clue what they are talking about.

but if the police saw you waiting outside a police station for someone to come out knowing full well there was a chance there might be a violent incident, but you hadn't actually commited it yet, what would they do? Would they give you a talking too, move you out of the area and then release the individual you might clash with ensuring you are well away, or would they let him out, let you two get on with it and stand around filming it? No one is saying people are not responsible for their own action, but the police are responsible for preventing it. Like it or not, some people will look for a fight at football when we play our neighbours, thats life, doesn't make it right, but that is how it is.

Oh brilliant, lets start sentancing on what ifs, when you drive at 80 on the motorway, what if you hit someone and kill them, death by dangerous driving for you, not because of what you did, but what if....

As apposed to letting them out at the same time when they were sitting ducks? They could have held them in, cleared the area surrounding and then escorted them back, you know like they do to us at Fratton Park, like they do in all othe local derbies. Letting them out was asking for trouble.

exactly, the story isn't accurate, no scene from baveheart mentioned, no 95 year old men or pregenant women running for their lives.

I didnt say that, but but why let them out at the same time? Tensions were running high, letting them out at the same time was asking for trouble. They keep them in at other derbies why not this one? Whilst people are responsbile for their own actions the police are there to prevent disorder as well as catch people who have commited a crime. Its almost like they let it happen, lots of them stood around filming while the 'riot of freeborn was carried out. If they have prevented the flashpoint in the first place by keeping the skates in then none of it would have happened. You wouldn't give a peadophile a packet of sweets, let him hang around a school with the police filming him then when he did something arrest him months later for it.

3 year football bans, heavy fines or comunity service. Not saying having been found guilty you should not be punished but this is way over the top and smacks of a political agenda.

and if the police had shown a bit of common sense and kept the pompey fans in like they odo at evey derby the area would have been cleared and none of this would have happened. OB covering their arses. And it wasn't planned, if it was they'd have been charged with conspiracy.

We all break the law everyday, have never done 38 mph in a 30 zone? how many men have never had a fight? Not many i know, let he who is without sin..... The point is these guys day by day are probably decent, law abiding citizens, but they acted stupidly and have been punished for thier actions in a ridiculously over the top way just so the government and Hants OB can be seen to make an example of people, best legal system in the world? It is if your a repeat offender, if are a nornmal bloke you cross the line just once though you are ****ed.

my point exactly.

If they had a string of convictions and were told this was their last chance then maybe, but i'd bet at least half of those guys had nothing on their record and were not even know 'hooligans' to Hamsphire police. Now they will loose thier livelihood, have to spend time away from their families behind bars and then face trying to get a new job when they get out. Not condoning their actions but this is all so the government and police can go 'look at us., look at what a great job we do' its a disgrace

I dont agree, if a guy is on his fourth or fifth offence for the same thing then maybe, but to make an example of someone with no previous and who undoubtedly got swept away in the moment and is not a career criminal, probably has a job and maybe a family and is probaly actually a decent citizen then it is absoultely 100% wrong to pin them up as a deterant to other people.

an utter disgrace. Yet more political sentancing.

Because the obvious choice if Dickson gets injured is molyneux, who cant get into the Port Vale side, when on loan there, think that is a case of enough said.

Now where did i suggest that? Yep, bailey has escaped because Pardew is 'not interested' or maybe its because he wants to play in the premier league and feels 'boro will get their quicker than us? Believe it or not, not every player is falling over themselves to join league One Southampton.

Do we have RM problems then? Puncheon and Lallana can play there, i wouldn't call it a problem area, unlike right back. As for Brandy, Pace, hit and miss, sounds very much like Pap Waigo then? never seen him play or heard of him to be honest, but unpredicatabiltiy and pace are two big things to have in your locker.

It isn't just due to their hair colour, ginges have that nasty red skin complexion too which means they burn in the sun as quickly as a an albino on a sunbed, dim wit.

That is absolutely the most important piece of news that we are all waiting on. By the way, can we campaign that the club open the kiosks after games as well, i think it is 'outrageous' that they close them. that way i can have a beer and a pie before the game, a beer and a burger at half time and a beer and a hot dog after or if i am feel particularly crazy can mix it up a bit and swap them round to keep my game going friends guessing just what i am going to stuff down my face first. Moaning for 90 minutes is hungry work you know.

People on the old saints forever moaned about Strachan when he was here, not good enough tatically, favourites for players like Telfer and WIlliams, didn't make substiutions early enough, after a couple of goalless home games, 0-0 at home hwen we were 6th people were up in arms about his negative defensive tactics, some people will moan regardless even if Mourinio was manager and we won every game 10-0.

The gap is getting smaller and smaller between the top European and South American sides and the africans and asians. Japan ran Holland close and we've seen South Korea in he semi a few years back. Whilst the likes of Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy etc will always be strong, i wouldn't mind betting its not to many years before we see a winner from one of these contients.

two strikers is Conolly doesn't renew, a central midfielder as well.

granted he is ugly.