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he should consider himself lucky, i suggest as an alternative to here he tries Danny Dyers problem page in Zoo. This is the sort of advice he can expect, we have been positively mild in comparison. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2960344/Danny-Dyer-in-trouble-over-vicious-advice-given-in-Zoo-magazine-problem-page.html :lol:

Finally someone who puts forward a reasonable arguement. Re your comments on MS, it is horses for courses, yesterday we needed a Hammond & Chaplow midfield pair to use their extra energy and battling qualitites to match Tranmere. Morgan is good when we are at home or on top in a game, but not one to put his boot in when he has to fight for the ball in the midfield or when things aren't going our way. Chaplow was an excellent signing and just what we needed. What i fail to understand is these people that keep saying we need cover. For example in the centre of midfield we have 3 good players there, but if we sign another "cover" player there, will they be any better than Gobern or Wotton? Unlikely as what sort of player is going to come to a league one club as cover and 4th choice? However if we go out and sign a top L1 player or NPC player there which improves the standard of the squad and first team then brillaint. Same goes for every other position. What is the point of signing a "cover" player for Lallana? he wont be as good as him for sure, so why sign a poorer like for like replacement? Why not go for a good player who can play left midfield, and also centre or right? Ryan harley for example. If we got him he would give us options of 4-4-2,he could come in for Lallana when he is injured on the left or we can play 4-3-3 or an attacking 4-5-1 away from home with him, Lallana and OC all starting, that would frighten most teams at this level. People on here are so blinkered and just think 4-4-2, like for like replacements without thinking about any other tactics or formations. It is a fact that all the most successful teams dont have "cover" players, they have good squads with options. Who would be your first choice Man Utd midfield out of Nani, Anderson, Carrick, Scholes, Fletcher, Giggs, Park, hargreaves (when fit) & Valencia (again when fit)? They've got 9 good players there all of a similar standard which enable them to adapt to the opposition, fitness and tactics. You wouldn't consider any of them "cover" players and we need to follow this example, not the one we did under Lowe and Burley of just signing player after player which lead to a massive squad full of players not good enough for the level we were playing at. If we simply sign "cover" players then when we get promoted we will have a squad full of L1 players playing in the NPC on contracts that have two or three years left to run on them and the same situation, a squad of players not good enough for the level we need.

He was on the live lounge over Christmas but not heard much from him since, great second album though, first was a bit too much gansta for me.

Right, so it's laughable that we sign players better than we have is it? It's laughable that we add to and improve to the squad, good players enabling us to play formations and tactics other than 4-4-2 and have players good enough to rotate the squad depending on which players are best suited to the opposition, conditions and tactics? If you care to read the whole thread before describing my comments as "laughable" you will see that i am advocating signing players better than we have, not "cover" players like some are. We didn't lose because of our supposedly weak bench yesterday. NA said so himself, we lost because the players that started didn't turn up until half time, by then we were already 1-0 and chasing the game, we also lost due to individual errors, shocking defending for the first goal. According the radio we also played about 5 formations with no width when we were chasing the game which is bizarre.The side we had out yesterday should have won against the team 20th in L1. To suggest we lost because of players that weren't playing is quite frankly, laughable.

F*cking Cortese, not got a clue what he is doing.

Why dont you read the rest of the thread and not the last couple of posts before commenting.

I think what he means is he hasn't turned around HIS mentality. I was sure we would win yesterday and yes it was a shock, no i am not lying.

Isn't relying on winning games what promotion is all about? Maybe i am being thick but to get promotion you have to do this, you have to win games? Although no doubt if we had played one more game than Huddersfield and Bournemouth and were two points above them you'd be moaning that we are only second because we'd played more games. So come on, we are on course for auto promotion in terms of points gained under NA, we can be where you want us to be all things being equal provided we achieve a basic requirement of promotion and win a game of football. What else do you want?

The one thing that really pis*ed me off recently was when Bale and Walcott played well for their clubs and Jamie Redknapp said on sky sports a few weeks ago "it's been a great day for SOuthampton, two players that came through their youth team playing brilliant in the PL" Sorry, how the f*ck is it a great day for SOuthampton when two of the best players in the FL are playing brilliantly for other clubs?

and if we win our game in hand we will be. SO what else do you want?

From what i have been told the players were far too complacent yesterday and as i said above it's a collective responsibility. Adkins appears to have got it wrong tactically yesterday, it souned like we played about 5 formations and the players made individual errors and were complacent and sloppy. IMO opinion i dont buy the "it's the managers job to motivate players". To a certain extent they can help, managing them properly, using them to get the best out of them but in any job if you want to be the best at your profession you need to be self motivated, motivation comes from within, do Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, Paul Scholes etc need a manger to motivate them? No doubt they have been helped by them but at 37 years old does Ryan Giggs still have the enthusiams of a 17 year old because he manager tells him too?

What are you going on about?

Read it again, i did answer your question. the FACTs PROVE, he is doing a good job, hence my comment "this indicates he is doing a good job". So now you answer the question, his record so far is enough for promtion in each of the last 6 seasons, what more do you want?

What a wierd thing to say, if someone thought'd we'd win and didn't fit your agenda then they are lying. I thought we'd win, in fact i had money on us winning in an accumulator, but we didn't, it happens.

He has got more points since he has been here than any other team in the league, with possibly exception of Brighton but i cant be arsed to check, this indicates he is doing a good job. In all compeitions P22 W14 D3 L5; 37 points out of a possible 57, average of 1.94 a game, over a season 90 points, enough for promotion in any of the last 6 seasons, what more do you want?

I dont doubt that at all.

I am not doing an Alpine and picking parts of your argument out but be realistic it wasn't difficult. I likes Pardew and was angry when he was sacked but to take a team that had had no preseason, lost all it's be players and had just come out of admin and improve it really wasn't a big task. Swindon away last season was shocking, the worst performance i think i have ever seen by a Saints team, we were nothing short of terrible. To improve on that wasn't difficult, especially with the money he was given in both transfer windows. It doesn't take a managerial god to take a poor team and improve it when they are handed £4m at this level. This is NA's first transfer window, he has taken PArdews squad to second, higher than we ever were under him, would Pardew have done any better? Who knows. Isn't the fans attitude of excpecting to lose certain games down to the fans though and not the manager? I bet NA and the team didn't go to Tranmere expecting to lose. If anything by all accounts they were over confident.

No Jamie you are wrong, we should win EVERY game. FACT.

I am not bullying him, i am helping him through his problems.

Last seven games, W5 D1 L1, 16 points out of a possible 21. We are inconsistant.

I've developed this really wierd condition over the past year or so, When i go onto an internet forum and i open a thread, i immediately have to read the content. Sometimes, but not always i am compelled to respond to it, more often than not when i dont agree with the content of it. Have i got OCD or some other wierd condition? Does anyone else suffer from this? On another note, last night i was happily enjoying the MOTD highlights whilst being on the internet when i accidently leaned on the remote control and the channel changed to Five, it took me about 10 seconds to realise what i had done and then switch back to to BBC1, i immeidately began to feel really depressed that such a terrible thing had happened to me and it ruined my evening and viewing experience of MOTD. I couldn't sleep last night, it kept going over and over in my head why my life was so s*it and why am i so unlucky to have such terrible things happen to me. I dont think i am going to be able to leave the house today as i cant face people feeling like this. Is this normal?

Shut up Chesney.

SO what? I bet their fans aren't on their forums going "let all be f*cking mates and touch each others cyber c*cks, we're playing SOuthampton next week"

Are we playing better now than at the start of the season? Yes or no Has Adkins pciked up more points (or at least the top two) in this division since he has been here? Yes or no If we win our game in hand will we be in the top two? Yes or no Where we ever in that position last season, even without the minus 10 points? Yes or no Is that progress? Yes or no.

As i say, i cant say what the root cause was as i didn't go, however comments from mates who were there and the radio suggest that the team came out far to casual, complacent and expecting to win easily. When Tranmere got at us it knocked us out of our stride and took us until the second half to recover. Also it seems we played about 5 different formations during the game which seems a bit odd. So Adkins takes responsibility for the tactics, the players for the individual errors that lead to the first goal, have you seen it? Shockingly casual defending. Both take responsibility for the attitude, Adkins for not drumming it into the players that they have to earn the right to win and the players for being to complacent. I quite agree re transfers and i leave that down to the management to decide who will improve the side, if that is a free transfer from Hereford or £1.5m pounds from Swindon the proviso is that they are better or at least as good as what we have and not brought in just as a squad player to use up the bibs at training and only play when everyone else is injured (unless they are in my cavet above of a really promising young player who might not be ready now but will be in a season or so) On this thread we discussed who we would like to sign and my two "dream" window signings would be Charlie Austin and Ryan Harley, because i've seen them play a fair bit and think they will add something to the squad other than filling up a place on the bench. That is all.