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I'm sure people will be a long in a minute to remind us how great immigration is, how we need to embrace islam and how it's okay because it isn't all of them doing it.

Its hilarious how Toby's like always_sfc and SOG ask for evidence, then when it's provided those that do are accused of bullying and trolling.

Quite, there's the grey area. if you're going to base it on what they did for saints then Shearer doesn't get in, neither does Bale and arguably Keegan. Shaw, Bridge, Dennis to name but 3 were all better left backs for saints than Bale, who wouldn't be playing st left back if it was based on his career anyway. If it's what they did in their careers then they walk into the side as does Alan Ball and you could make a case for the likes of Mark Hughes and plenty of others such as Andre Kanchelskis and Jamie Redknapp to be included who whist being poor for saints were excellent players in his day.

How on earth can you have lambert in over Shearer?

Correct. I'm not sure where the CoC myth started that no one would ever leave if he was here as he has a 100% conversion rate when it came to sales v big offers for players. Despite brash claims that he threw bids for players in the bin once daddy chamberlain got on the blower telling him that arsenals bench was preferable to Corteses ambition Nick nack bottled it and flogged him quicker than it took him to clean out the team coach after Plymouth away. Another amusing thing is how the CoC continue to claim that we were all set to crack the top 4 because the dwarf talked a good game. But this isn't bore out by any facts. We may have had a decent first XI when he was here but underneath that the cupboard was bare as proven by the fact every time we got a couple of injuries we'd have our arses handed to us. Despite all his big talk in front of the cameras we could no doubt have expected big money spent on more disastrous signings like Osvaldo and Ramirez but hey, he showed ambition, right? Then of course is the undeniable fact that once he was asked to stop spunking money up the wall and actually make a few quid he went running to the dole queue, not into the arms of the AC Milan owners who he claimed had courted him for 4 years. An employee shouting from the roof tops about what they are going to do isn't a vision if it isn't shared by your bosses it's some egoed, big mouth telling people what they want to hear for his own ends. A lot of people have seen through it now but some faithful souls still believe the gospel according to Nick Nack. Although as we've seen history is showing that what we achieved in his time here was inspite of him. It because of him.

Why don't you offer an opinion on the topic and stop posting about me for once? Being obsessed with posters on a football forum isn't healthy pal. It's pretty odd actually.

For a long time the whipping boy the villain of the piece for what appeared to be no other reason than saints payed a big fee for him. Long was the evidence that bumbling Les didn't have a clue what he was doing paying that much for a player like him. Every mistake was jumped upon, every miss highlighted. He was a championship player and no better than Brett Ormerod. So what is the view now? Has Shane Long been our best striker this season? Has His performance made him undroppable right now? Did bumbling Les make another balls up when signing him? Or is he still a rich mans Brett Ormerod a poor player who just runs around a lot.

Less of the "we're all" anything top 10 would be a good season in my book. People forget that it'd be only the second time in hour history we'd have achieved 3 consecutive top 10 finishes in top flight

The problem with Yoshida is he gives away at least one goal scoring opportunity a game. At this level that usually gets punished, he's decent enough for most of the game but seems to suffer from lapses in concentration or plain on stupidity. He could arguably have cost us two penalties recently away at Swansea and home to west ham where he made clumsy and unessasary challenges. I agree with you though its a problem for most clubs , even Man United with all there money don't have a decent centre half between them and Carrick there is ridiculous, IMO one of the best midfielders in the league being played out of positions weakens them in two positions not just one.

We all have players we love to hate, but who are the top three players past or present who have done things against Saints that you have never forgiven them for and why? Mine Adrian Heath Everton - 14th April 1984, 3 minutes of extra time left in the 1984 Semi final and he scores the winner for Everton. Ian Rush - Liverpool- two years later, scores two extra time goals for Liverpool in the 1986 FA Cup semi final Paul Davis - Arsenal - Saints led 2-0 at Highbury in 1988, Paul Davis punches Glen Cockerill behind the refs back breaking his jaw. Davis stayed on and Arsenal go on to equalise in the 9 minutes of injury time added on for the injury. Arsenal would go on to win the title that season on goal difference with a 2-0 over Liverpool at Anfield. I've never liked Arsenal since.

We certainly did. Top 5 finishes two seasons in a row, European Football, two FA Cup semi finals in 3 seasons, a brilliant team with first choice England internationals and top young players like Steve Moran and Danny Wallace mixed in with quality older players like Jimmy Case, Joe Jordan. That was the first saints team I started watching and I thought it would always be like that. After Adrian Heath made me cry in 1984 my dad gave me the best bit of advise he ever did, something along the lines of "you'll get used to days like this".

He could stick £5k on Spurs to win it at 11/4 with various companies and win another £18k to soften to blow if they don't win it.

And we won there in the cup last season.

It'd be fabulous that wouldn't it. 10th place in around clubs like Everton and Stoke and Watford, clubs you dream we could be like. You must be over the moon that we're matching those clubs that you've been lauding all season.

Koeman clearly tells players to get set off to give him an excuse for our poor form as he isn't interested and is managing his way out of saints. You can tell that from his body language the last few weeks.

I'd like to see a tribute to all the great chairman we've had. Alan Woodfords cigars and brandy glasses, guy Askhams biscuit tin, Rupert's shooting jacket, the saints go wilde t-shirts and of course homage to Corteses built up shoes.

It 4 years time the Middlesborough web will be reminiscing about that Wolves game where Ramirez showed he clearly has talent.

Shane long. An absolute talisman. When he scores we rarely lose, top scorer despite rarely starting and proven himself to be undroppable. Well worth the fee.

Brett, since 1985 we've finished in the top 10 of the top flight 6 times. If we finish in the top 10 again this season, which there is every chance well will, then it'll be the first time we've done it 3 seasons in a row since 1982 and only the second time we've ever achieved that. As much as many of the mugs on here believe we are a Mega club or the likes of you want to criticise everything the club does and oh how I wish we were Everton, a top 10 finish this season will be a great achievement and will represent the most consistent performance in terms of league position for 34 years. So yes id say it's been a decent season and only a f*ckwit would disagree.

Yep, he's been outstanding. Liverpool have been very good. City woeful, no chance they'll win the league now.

And what would you know? The only thing you've ever taken on the chin are you captains balls when you burnt his bacon.

It all went wrong when out talisman went off. If there is anyone left that underestimated Longs importance to the side then this dispelled all doubts.

To appeal what though? It seems they haven't been convicted of any crime or even charged with one. They've been recognised on CCTV has having been involved in an altercation for which they have received football banning orders, which are civil rather than criminal convictions. Football Bans can also be applied as a means to prevent further disorder so even if its proven that what the did was self defence the old bill can always pull out the card that having been involved in this then it's likely they'll be involved in something else in the future to uphold any appeal. We dont know if the CCTV footage shown to the court will show the initial attack from the Arnhems fans, or any witness statements confirming this, but you'd assume this was highly unlikely as nothing released to the media showed it. So not only did the Dutch police manufacturer the situation in the first place Hampshire Police appear to have not given the full story to the media given the way it's been reported so therefore you'd assume the same to the courts. So we now have the blaze of publicity and back slapping from them about how they've all worked together to save football grounds across Europe from these dangerous people. Some will say they over stepped the mark of self defence and so deserve everything they get but as eyewitness accounts such as Nicks article on TUI confirm once the Arnhem hooligans had been seen off the mood returned to the peaceful one it had been prior to the attack by them. There was no further trouble that day or night and no innocent fans were set upon, so those that had a chair thrown at them where the ones who attacked Saints fans in the first place, in that situation then surely they are the ones who deserve what they get? The whole thing stinks. Where else would you not be convicted or even charged with a criminal offence yet be banned from entering a city centre, travelling to another one or leaving the country for a good part of a the year without actually having been found guilty or even charged with anything. But of course no one gives a sh*t because as you can tell from the reaction on here and other social media the default reaction is they are scum and deserve everything they get. From the outside looking and as someone who has saw the whole thing from 20 yards away it seem the boys in blue have done a marvellous job of shafting a few people for their own ends yet again. Southampton FIU budget is secured for another year and yet another nice little "hooligans banned ahead of England tournament" headline that they roll out every time there is one.

There were a few Feyenord fans in the square but they were there to support saints. Read Nick Illingworths article on it on TUI which is linked above. It's exactly what happened. It was Arnhem fans who attacked the saints fans. I know this because I was in a side road just off the square where it happened saw the whole thing and the 50 Arnhem fans marched past me arms in the air singing "we are Arnhem". As for "simo" it's pretty evident he's a clown and talking bo locks, funny how on the one hand he's boasting about being on the back page of the echo for being involved in trouble and then condemning people for stuff he blantently hasn't got a clue what he's on about.

"Simo" is clearly talking out of his arse. Rolling down the stairs with 4 of them after they'd spat in a women's face because she was singing Lowe out songs. Yet at least 7 years on recognises all of them clearly from a photo in the paper, course that's true