Gordon Mockles

Someone must have dirt on him, back from the Hone time & Lowe also being informed of antics & sticking his nose in around that time, or club social events, eh Michael?!...there must be something. No sane man could endure their reputation trawled through the sewers (rightly) and still lie on his back, mute. Could they? Wilde's hollow words and entirely flawed & failed manifesto and total lack of competency ends in him standing down as Chair - No proper explanation. Wilde's pushed out by his own bunch of self-serving t*sser execs - Wilde says nothing. A public letter from Mary Corbett asking Wilde to respond - cowering in the shadows as usual. Wilde's unenviable track record of failure, his lack of backbone and ability to speak out & explain is constantly bounded around the forum, he reads many comments under 2 user names we know of....Errrrrrrrrr, 5 comments (not of much worth!) http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=13152#post13152 (he even thought this season would have "highs" and they "deserved the support..." *chokes* Wilde has been on record as openly dislking Lowe (who doesn't!) yet comes back as Rupert's powerless puppet, then embarks on the Lowe/Wilde 2009 demolition campaign of Southampton Football club (and all associated companie) - STILL MUTE! SLH goes into administration, both Lowe and Wilde run with their tails between their legs (bar the odd "it's not my fault!" squinny from Lowe) into the wilderness - VERY LITTLE INFORMATION. Why is that? Either Mike Wilde has no back bone at all, or someone has some serious dirt on him as the fans certainly deserve an explanation. Certainly, if I was one of the 2 main catalysts for the almost total destruction of Southampton Football Club (and a large portion of the fan base were baying for my blood), I'd at least try and clear my name or make something more than an inane comment or two on a fan's internet forum. I'd speak out and explain myself...Then again, I have a pair of t*sticles! [-X Spinless, divisive (certainly his counter-part) and entirely incompetent. Let's hope prospective new applicants who may take over our club don't have these dominating turpitudes! :smt097

Coward - Waster - Loser - Incompetent - Failure! Not even man enough to stand out and speak...ever! (asides from the occasional, woeful and meaningless/pitiful press statments of inane irrelevance. To speak now is much too late. Get on with your life a million miles away from here. You made your bed, you lie in it. Pathetic! Sleep well and, one day, shed a thought for what you actually helped destroy and the fans/community you helped to dismay and upset with your ridiculous decisions and antics.

Only just had the chance to read it. Scary reading. Not wishing to cause trouble or stir up a hornet's nest (esp. if something is in the pipeline or not yet added to the OS) but I have one particularly pertinent point: What I don't understand is that if we're in such serious peril, why haven't the people that report to the press and purport to be committed to helping and saving Saints (celebrity fans like Craig David, esq.) not on the OS list for donating over 1 grand? To me, if no names appear on the list following interviews suggesting otherwise, I will have no choice but to assume they are hollow words & b*llsh*t (and nothing short of publicity stunts). I hope not and will reserve judgement. As for the players, despite a large portion of the team being on relatively low wages (in modern, professional football monetary terms) and having recently stepped up from the youth team, many still earn very good money and profess to caring about the club and the football produced in Southampton FC. The older players earn more in a month or 2 than many of us earn in a year, yet we donate, turn up to watch p*ss poor football & cheer them on every week. WHY, o WHY have the players not donated wages? (heard something about Kelvin doing something or forfeiting wages - can anyone confirm!?) They are one of the reasons we can't balance the books and why we are sat at the foot of the table. Whilst I don't hold that against them (they work, they get paid like the rest of us, deserving or not when you watch the games!) they profess to care about the club. Put your money where your mouth is - Surman, Wotton, Euell, Thomas, Skacel, Perry, Lallana, Saga, etc. I didn't see Lawrie's name on the list despite his continual sounding off to the fans. Hmmmm??!! Do his contribution evenings count? Maybe but personal donations would all help. Lowe, Wilde, Wiseman, Dennis, Channon, etc. The players enjoy living here, socialising, being part of the community and picking up a good wage - do they really care that little that you can watch a club that supported you as an important part of your career wither and die? In some cases, I don't doubt they do. Stand up and be counted as part of our proud city of Southampton. If not, pick up your last pay cheque and fook off. I feel the modern game has lost the heart of football. Games like Charlton at home and Sheff Wed last week highlight that. The same as the dreaded game against the Skates when battling to stay up in the Premiership - if you can't perform and get motivated when competing to stay in the league (esp. against arch rivals), then you shouldn't be in the sport. Saints ask for much from their fans despite little in return - it's time the other so called ambassadors of Southampton showed their worth. After all, we're constantly patronised by the players and ex pros and high profile fans spouting to the press - we're chuck money in the buckets, where are their names? That list looked damn small for a football club in a town of approx. quarter of a million people. Sorry for the sanctamoius post but I find it rich that so many spout off to the press and have pots of money, yet seemingly do nothing. Also, a figure to aim for - i.e. FINANCIAL TARGET TO SAVE THE CLUB would be a good idea and better incentive. [disclaimer - if any of the mentioned wealthier people have donated a substantial amount, then I apologise and you should be on the list]

Unlike you to post an overtly contentious question or paradigms old fella?! Had the hornets been a bit quiet in their proverbial nest?! You like your bones of contention eh?! Well, I suppose, if you give a dog a bone.... Can't we just forget the old board. It's boring. You with your antagonistic, Lowe ridden agenda, Others (maybe me included in the past) with their vehement, anti-Lowe stance (although, judging by our predicament, you can understand the sheer bitter hatred aimed at the 2 chief perpetrators - Lowe and Wilde!) We're in the sh*t, we may go out of existence thanks to a collective bunch of egotistical, middle aged idiots intent on having fun at a football club without a care or modicum of sense and competency in running a football business. Look where we are?! Why didn't anyone save us from the administrators? Well, maybe certain parties would have helped if certain parties had not clutched the club by the balls and squeezed every last ounce of life from our now forlorn club. Maybe they would have prevaricated, making out they would have helped, criticising others, yet kicked tyres and done nothing. Who knows? The fact is, we're on life support and all these hollow words from anyone linked to Saints means nothing. As Mike Skinner often retorted - Actions speak louder than words! Wonder if we'll see any life in the next few weeks?! On the whole, from all the meaningless press statements, I am in agreement with Mick Channon. He always cuts through the b*llsh*t and doesn't engage the pointless. IMHO, a pretty fair and direct chap and I do believe the share holders should have been given some feedback from Mr Fry. Maybe news is forthcoming, I hope so.

I'd hardly shoo away Salz and you can hardly say he was previously related to the previous business, other than in a very small capacity of offering some advice to Crouch following Leon's initial errors. I also don't understand your disdain towards the Corbetts seeing as they've been life long fans and propped the club up in the 80s. Still, some people don't understand the meaning of respect and gratitude. I do think we need a clean sweep and new blood to the club. If only to find some management with ambition. Someone who is willing (once the bureaucracy, fiduciary and legal duties have been met) to invest into the FOOTBALL TEAM and CLUB. It's long overdue. I really wish you sometimes thought a little more about what you type. Maybe thinking slightly outside the box and not viewing everything through rose tinted spectacles! Someone could outbid a decent consortium by simply ploughing all the available money (or running up their own personal debt) into the bid, leaving nothing for the team/club. Diligence, foresight or prudence may not be their strong points, just over-shadowed by their overwhelming desire and ego trip of owning or running a football club. Then we are lumbered with clueless people who could kill the club off. It's happened before, eh?! Is someone worried about what the FA may find out? Are you scouting? Missing Millions or illicit payments?! All allegedly of course. Deny away! On the whole, I just hope we get the luck which has evaded us, as a club, for way too long. We deserve some good fortune, if only for the fans (not the irrationally scorned fans Nineteen/Sundance likes to chastise in his right wing world of misplaced resentment) and those who share the love and passion for Saints, as a football club. A sensible consortium, looking to take control of the club (but for the right reasons). As has been discussed, it's a very critical time and I hope no jokers with money come in and totally eradicate what Lowe and Wilde substantially destroyed. Before, we had the worst of both worlds - little spending on the team (back in the glory days of the Premiership/forgotten land), selling all our best stars but the worn out mantra that we kept in the black. Evidently, we didn't for that catalogue of errors by the recently departed, amongst others. We need a new, solid foundation. Financial prudence, a football savvy management team and wise businessmen. Not an impossible equation. It's scary to think about some of the tye kickers or wasters currently circling but I have hope. I'm confident some very good suitors are involved. My shared concerns with most on here (and Duncan) is, will they get a look in? Money talks...

You know that's the only view point he ever has. Equate him to fascist dictators or, as Wes said, Tyrants. Never, EVER wrong! It all went wrong when I left in 2006...what a c o o o o n t ! !

I liked those bits too. haha. Say it as it is son! Next thing, you'll get Lord Nineteen welly boot bleating on, smearing the hack's name, berating the fans staying away from the utter tripe football...all because Rupert's faultless!

Couldn't agree more. Well said Mick. It's shocking really. When you consider past share issues and the actions of the men who have sucked the club dry. Where are they now in our hour of need?

FFS, this was a mistake. We now know this but do we need to constantly chase our tails?! Come up with a new argument, PLEASE! No-one knew Wilde was to be such a shallow, hollow man whose words were worth less than Icelandic Bank Balances!

Well said and that's a good point. A huge indicator that Lowe cares more about himself than our sorry club. He treated the fans with utter disdain. His tenure was almost a media blackout, with his parrot Wilde occasionally peddling some inane drivel and blaming banks instead of themselves *smirk*...YET NOW, Lowe can suddenly engage the media for his own surreptitious agenda. Unbelievable. If Rupert cared for our club as much as his business accumen or bank balance, then we'd be laughing. Sadly, having been run into the ground by a man (and his languid parrot) who knew next to nothing about the football business, we are not. Time to look forward and I am so deeply overjoyed these 2 parasites have gone and I hope they never muddy out doormat (irony) again.

Perhaps, if you're a customer in a canteen, being served sh*t on a tray, you not going to want to come back for more. Would you then chastise the customers for not being loyal or come out with some other obscure reasoning, deviating blame from yourself? One thing bugs me about this arrogant, pompous and totally outlandish attitude - THE FANS HAVE BEEN MORE THAN PATIENT WITH THIS CLUB. Consider how far we've fallen from grace, we had almost 28,000 fans Saturday - cheering and getting behind the team. Sadly the team didn't turn up (charging down balls, chasing every loose ball...NOPE! Ineptitude). Look at Birminghams average attendance this season and then consider your words again. Saints fans have put up with more than enough nonsense in recent seasons yet certain 'factions' feel it's right and fair to criticise them and demand large gates (regardless of the cr*p football we dish out twinned with p*ss poor football appointments). Also consder the financial situation combined with the total lack of respect and disdain shown by the club (i.e. very little feedback and constant sneering) towards the fans and your words suddenly seem very foolish. Very much of the Lowe ilk, blaming everything but themselves. Maybe it's an inherent Tory boy political viewpoint. Regardless, it's both arrogant and wrong!!

Great post. Couldn't have worded it better myself. ;o)

Ludicrous viewpoint and smacks of the Lowe cabal all over. Any half sensible businessmen would not touch Lowe with a barge pole, knowing this situation was more than probable, and hold on to his/her money until the time was right - I am hoping, NOW. Why line the pockets of feuding and obstinate businessmen who have personal profit prioritised ahead of any consideration towards the club?! I'm with Wes, I'd have more respect for a businessman who had a wise head on his shoulders and anticipated this opportunity rather than being scornful that some mug didn't plug millions in to support 2 failing businessmen and their nightmare reign of incompetency!! As 1576 so rightly says, maybe the interested parties intend to do something bereft of the past Chairmen/Boards and actually put money into the CLUB, rather than share holder pockets via dividends and such. Maybe, MAYBE they care about the football side of matters and want to see some prosperity return to the South Coast with sensible ideas and wise planning and appointments?! You may feel bitter that the Saints have been led into this situation but that is the situation brought upon us by the p*ss poor management of past Chairman and execs (chiefly down to the recently departed incumbents). If it had been easy for interested parties to deal with the Chairman re: investment/buying the club then maybe the club would have been taken over by now...but it hasn't happened! You don't need to be Miss Marple to figure out why. The main positives that may arise from admin is (FINALLY) the opportunity for Saints to be taken over and attract investment (and the clear benefits of finally being unshackled from Lowe and Wilde who were dragging us further and further down). Sadly, the management has been so poor, down to terrible decisions and egotistical disregard for both fans and infighting board members, we're left teetering at the gates of oblivion and are now totally reliant on finances being plugged into our rapidly sinking club. SOS

Good post! We've had better fans than the club deserve & anyone who says otherwise is a moron!!

For once, my old, occasional game watching fan, you and I are in total agreement. I've not been in a while and what I saw today was total, heartless dross. Left early and glad I did, even if I missed a goal. When a poor calibre conference reject DEFENDER is brought on when we're 2 goals down - you know it's time to leave FFS. BUT, I was impressed by the turnout, if not the result. And the singing and the way OUR CROWD have been for a long time now. Some have the audacity to criticise our crowd but, in essence, they're fabulous! Us, the fans, have been treated soooooooooooo poorly, with scorn, disrespect and served nothing but second rate rubbish for way too long. Yet, we come back, the odd moan and boo but imagine any other club reacting to what we've endured and I reckon you'd get a lot worse. Look at Newcastle! (although they're following Saints path at the mo!) We need help, we need to be saved. We all know that. Our squad is thread bare and p*ss poor. Right footed Bradley on the LEFT, The p*ss poor left footed Smith on the RIGHT...Burley school of player utilisation!. Let's hope we get taken over/investment and bring in a new squad as the current team is just a very poor, incapable squad. Harsh, but I fell fair (look at the table!) SOS

Already there Saturday. Just as long as it's not sat near that **** Bungle! LOL Sadly, I don't think he even goes to games. He prefers to gode people on the internet. That's his life...bless!!

You're of the same school as Lowe then (which figures when you read most of your posts) I won't type the word as it's rude and I don't want an infraction but we know eh Alain?! Oh the French...they love to be arrogant and disliked.

Lowe's gone now Nick, you can withdraw and tuck it back in. F*CKIN HELL! I can't believe some of the arguments I've read from you and obscure & vastly perplexed ideas and how you thinly put up in defense of the indefensible. I hope you're paid by someone for attracting so much stick, or are you just really naive or enjoy being "contentious"?! I suppose the charge for stewards, the cause the match was for, the effort for payment, the generally tight fisted nature of Lowe and the totally unethical, mean spirited attitude & treatment from the club for one of our GREAT (my old favourite!!) players now cruely struck down with illness evades your warped logic? Unbelievable! No, in your eyes, Danny f*cked off for a big pay day - what a c*nt! Ironic really.

I don't think the reply does it justice cos it doesn't look as clear cut as it did Tuesday night, sat right behind the ball. Still, what'd done is done. Should have buried it. He didn't. 1 point, more to do.

Always thought he was a Gilbert! Seeing as it seems to be Chesterton time, I browsed some of his array of amazing quotes (that we can agree on Mr Antagonistic Canteen) and saw one which I thought had a certain relevance to your beloved (Rupes) "Men invent new ideals because they dare not attempt old ideals. They look forward with enthusiasm, because they are afraid to look back." (Kind of the inverse to the point you often antagonise Duncan on!) "Men(or Saints fans)are ruled, at this minute by the clock, by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern."...That really does have a certain pertinence! Shocked you didn't hook out some Wilde or Shaw quotes, or are there some in your large array of weird and wonderful quotes?! ;o)

It's been done to death now but it was a very good chance. You can't dispute that!

You're all quite wrong. I won't deliberate as you're entitled to your opinions, whether wrong or not, but it was right in front of me (being behind the goal in the Chapel) and a clear cut chance that Surman missed from 11-12 yards out. Simple as that. It may not have been on the goal line, or with a marooned keeper and en empty net but it was still a golden opportunity at very close range and Surman blo*dy well knew it. Just watch his response?! Speaks volumes! There were some defenders in the vicinity but it was certainly not taxing. Bear in mind he is a professional footballer and this was a bread and butter chance. The ball was not travelling with a ton of pace, it came across the goal mouth (a very welll weighted pass by Mc Goldrick who I don't like nor rate but a great ball to pick out Drew) and Surman hooked it across goal. It was also on his instep, of his LEFT foot. All in his favour. You don't get too many chances like that in a game. Drew did not have time for a touch. It was a case of hit it hard and into the back of the net. He pulled it wide of the goal. A poor effort. One of the few posts of sense! FWIW, I like Surman and he threads a good pass through. He had a very poor game but the reactions on here are a tad knee jerk and unfair. He does lack pace and isn't strong in the air but we've always known this. He still has good assets to contribute to the squad (well, the managers seem to think so) and cares a lot about this club. Sadly, our lack of quality in the squad, sheer lack of depth in playing staff and desperate need for our stronger players (tired or not) like Surman dictated that he statred instead of some 16 year old scholar! Make of that as you will.

Were you close to the action or at the game? Dunno how easy a chance has to be before you call it a sitter. On the goal line? Judging from Drew's response, he thought, I thought it, the football media & most of the crowd too...but not you?! Bizarre!!

You're joking! It was that distance, possibly a yard or so closer & on his left (his stronger) foot AND on his instep. Clear cut & easy. You could see the slide marks left in the turf behind the penalty spot. Golden goal scoring terroritory. We knew it, he knew it & Drew will be pondering this terrible miss. A few mins after he still held his hands behind his head, in disbelief. He knew damn well that was a clear cut chance that he should have buried to seal the game. In the end, either team could have won it. After we scored, they came at us. Us probably having the better chances, excluding their inside post shot pinging across Kelvin's goal at the end. Surman had a poor game. I thought Euell was my MOM. Skacel mediocre, caught a few times. James is not a defender, naive & doesn't read the game well. Norwich won. We're in grave peril.

Conversely, maybe you should consider some of your previous comments, both as Sundance and Nineteen (let's be fair, you're not fooling anyone) and remember the constant reference to flat caps and disdain towards the fellow Saints supporters. That attitude speaks much louder than some more recent, well placed words splashed around the forum (twinned with some 'wide of the mark football facts' that have been revised in your endless free time). People remember those words so a shift in tactics doesn't change a leopard's spots in my 'humble' opinion. Humility eh?! Who'd have thought. It makes me chuckle to be fair. You're persistent to say the least. You've done well - your most hypocritical post to date, possibly. I do not wish, nor take pleasure, from insulting you. I merely take your words for what they're worth, and respond accordingly. Put that into perspective, or twist it as you wish but I don't wish any ill of you, nor intend to play games and overtly insult you. I just speak for myself, and those like minded. It's only an opinion. If you see me as a meaningless, opinion less, witless numpty, then feel the need to insult me - then so be it. You obviously regard yourself as some superior wit, an intellect intent on playing mind games on a football forum, trying to sway opinion and then spouting verbosity at all those that oppose your questionable agenda. Arrogant. Maybe sanctimonious too but that's common ground here, myself not excluded. You've got to laugh. Another post laden with an inane & obscure quote (what is the fascination with other people's words?) in yet more thinly veiled pomposity, directed as a hypocritical snipe at myself, purporting a futile and meaningless point. WOW! That's a mouthful, although I won't make any euphemism towards you, in a tongue in cheek (no pun intended) manner, as that also upsets you. In fact, most things upset you that don't fall in your remit of anything pro-Rupey...maybe throwing in a neutrally appeasing "Pericard" quote so as not to get as many backs up as your older/preferred target of Crouch or Pearson. Please, if you're going to dish out the insults and get a bee in that bonnet, try and be more succinct and, equally, relevant. Watching the game tonight old fella?