hypochondriac

Or amazingly you negotiate with a player. You say unfortunately you aren't for sale right now but if you give us one more year we will let you leave with our blessing. It's what a host of clubs do all the time and it means they avoid the situation of losing all their best players at once.

I think the lack of leadership for five months and seemingly no figurehead st the top unsettled players even before bids had come in. Someone like John Williams IMO would have had a much better chance of persuading certain players to stay even if it's only a short term basis. This would have allowed the situation to be managed much better without looking like a shambolic and like we are a club on the down.

I like this smirking saint a lot

his smugness suggested he was confident there were no links.

I merely posed the question as we have been linked with a few older players. Ffs.

I am aware of that.

Sorry meant smaller! Doh

Hmm hasn't got a great goals record and is quite old again. Change in transfer policy?

In the context of your meeting with Ralph, how do you feel about things at the moment?

Swansea have done well. Kept bony and where they have just lost Davies, are looking to get a player swap as part of it (gylfi is a great player.) if I were saints then Swansea is the model I would follow, especially as they are a smaller club than us.

Koeman is a separate issue. He isn't the club's owner or chairman.

Yep. I expected about three to leave this summer but we should have said to the other wantaways that they can go in January unary or next summer which means we could have handled departures a lot better. The way we have done it makes us appear clueless and weak.

I'd rather not stick my head in the sand and pretend that lovren isn't leaving.

I think we could have put up more of a fight and handled departures a lot better. From a pr perspective we have dreadful, starting from that difficult financial situation comment.

Indeed. Everything is not rosy behind the scenes and the comments from lovren about a lack of leadership weren't good.

I think that's the key point and why many are rightly concerned. We are very likely to lose Morgan and lovren too IMO.

Losing five or six of our best players isn't the athletico or Everton model.

This situation does make you wonder what would have happened if we had just been OK last season instead of brilliantm

Please let us know when we are allowed to express discontent. After Lambert leaves? Lallana? Shaw? Lovren? Schneiderlin?

Eh? What logic is that? He hasn't signed the contract. It's clear we very publicly offered it to him to show we were trying to keep him in the midst of interest from elsewhere.

I agree. Not in anyone's worst predictions would they have imagined that would happen in may, no matter how people try to spin it.

We were quite prepared to offer him a five year contract despite him not being back from injury or fit.

It is reported that lovren is leaving tomorrow. We have an ever-shortening period to get replacements in and get them to gel. Both of our signings may be brilliant and I hope they are but they are currently unproven in the prem so to say they are better than what we have is ridiculous at the moment. Targett is the same and no idea how he will do yet. We need a lot of things to go for us as it stands just to be at a similar standard as last season.

Reported that lovren will be leaving. Jay rod has been linked away as has Morgan. Why would they stay when the others have all left? I expect they will go as well.

If we lose lovren and Morgan we will have lost our five best players.