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Many are. I know that surveys show that an alarming amount have some very dodgy views on homosexuals and equality of women but in fairness I'm not sure if that actually translates to open discrimination or prejudice. I am sure that the majority are just normal people. That doesn't mean that extremist Islam and it's teachings aren't a huge problem and that there aren't real problems from its adherents in the UK.

He also went apeshit and threw criminals out of the temple.

Why is that important?

So nothing to do with the perverted teachings of some within the religion itself? The reason that almost all terror attacks in the West are committed by extremist Islamists is because the religion has been persecuted since the end of WW2?

You asked me who and I answered who. Not sure why you think my post didn't answer the question or was a weird tangent.

So then why is Islam a common factor in so many of these attacks?

That's a good point. If some racist white guy kills a bunch of black people no one would have any issue with calling out the far right ideology that influenced him or any government initiative looking to deradicalise similar individuals. You wouldn't say something like "well these unrelated black people had moved into parts of the white guys country and committed crimes and raped some people so even though we aren't justifying his killings it's kind of the inevitable consequence of allowing these things to occur."

I didn't say it's the only factor but there a reason why the overwhelming majority of these attacks originate from the same source. It's because we have extremist religious nutters spewing hatred and ideology that hates the West and who we are. Some of these people will consider themselves devout believers, some will have unfortunate personal circumstances that push them in that direction and some will use the religion as an excuse but the existence of the ideology and the continued promotion of it is in my view the primary factor and it's rarely called out explicitly by those with the power to do something about it.

I'm genuinely fine with that if it's clear he's backup, they get someone else in and move McCarthy on. Bazunu is perfectly fine as a number 2 keeper. The problem is when we have to play him so much.

What's my assumption? There's no assumption involved in knowing that Islamic extremists are involved in loads of terror attacks because their fucked reading of Islam tells them to kill people. Are you saying that there aren't many examples in recent history of terror attacks committed in the name of Islam? What terror attacks have been committed in the west in the name of other major religions that are comparable to 9/11? London bombings? Manchester arena bombings? Bataclan? Charlie Hebdo? Christmas Market rammings? That's just off the top of my head, we know that if I looked it up I could find probably 100 more examples. Attacks of that type that threaten innocent people in the west is absolutely something that comes overwhelmingly from extremist Islam.

I would suggest asking for a clarification if you're confused rather than inadvertently interpreting a post in bad faith.

But we know that attacks happen in the name of Islam all the time. Even if hypothetically this one is entirely motivated by Israel that doesn't change the very significant problem of extremist Islam motivating people to commit terror attacks.

I never said people on here though I haven't posed the question whether everyone on here thinks that the teachings of extremist Islam are a big part of the reason behind these attacks.

The evidence for this is?

It is and rather disappointing. I thought the west would be a lot more strident about defending its values and a lot tougher on people who hate us and want to kill us. We should be using every means necessary to root out and remove these people who threaten us and who teach hate.

Ignoring all the people on social media and the real media, how many western leaders in response to all these attacks have highlighted the teachings and followers of extremist Islam as a problem or the problem that needs eliminating in order to reduce these attacks? Where is the government anti extremist campaign in schools to tackle the extreme and backwards version of Islam that pervades certain parts of that society? Happy to create one to talk to men about respect for women though on the back of a fictional Netflix show. Obviously the government have no desire to do anything like that because they don't want to highlight the extreme parts of the religion as a unique problem and a greater risk than others.

Plenty of people will think they at least partially brought it on themselves because they are Jews.

Plenty of people deny that there's a consistent pattern of extremist Muslims committing the majority of terror attacks all over the world. It's a pattern that's been ongoing since 9/11 tbh.

No argument from me there. The overwhelming number of terror attacks like this one are committed in the name of one religion though. Everyone knows why that is. We will have this same circular conversation when the next Islamist extremist commits an act of terror -probably in a few weeks- and you'll have the same group of people blaming it on colonialism, the West and Israel. Those same people won't ever countenance the idea that the teachings are to blame and that many fundamentalist Islamic nutters really believe the stuff they are being taught and so hate non believers and especially Jews and want to wipe them out. Like I said let's all meet back on this thread in a few weeks time when another group of innocents are slaughtered by an Islamist and we will have the same people denying that a section of Islamist believers are the problem.

That's bollocks to suggest the west is at fault for terror attacks. Extremist versions of Islam hate us simply for existing. They see kindness as weakness to be taken advantage of.

It's important at times like this to differentiate between the moderate, reasonable Muslims that are just like you and me and also the extremist Muslims that commit attacks against those of other religions. Unfortunately there's a significant amount of the latter who commit proportionatly loads more terrorist attacks of this nature than any other religion. Once again we are talking about Islamic extremism and unfortunately it's innocent Jewish people again who are on the receiving end of this medieval barbarism.

My first visit on here today and the replies on here were oh so predictable.

I have indeed. I prefer the stuff written by Armando but it's still very funny. I saw he was doing another TV series about mental health. Is that out yet?

My only reaction today is that I despise Bazunu and I'm amazed that I'm having to sit through another season with him in goal.

Personal preference. I'm ap is great but I laugh out loud more at Kmkywap. Particularly the Xmas episode. The radio episodes are also great.