Jimmy_D

Love the third kit, really like the away kit. Wasn't overly impressed when I first saw the home kit but I think it's starting to grow on me a bit. Reminds me of the Championship season kit. Our marketing team is genius

Well deserved!

Time to dig out Adkin's pen and put a line under this season. Looking forward to seeing what Hasenhuttl can do with us with a full preseason and a chance to do some squad building now.

Everything ran for Liverpool this season. The sheer amount of luck they got with last minute goals, countless teams throwing it away with stupid mistakes. Referees constantly falling for their cheating and diving, with VAR not coming in until next season. Arguably it all came together even better than Leicester had it in their title winning season. It all came together perfectly for them, and they ended up with a quite frankly incredible 97 points. The third best league performance in the history of English Football. They were incredibly lucky to get that. It is absolutely hilarious that it was all for nothing. That despite getting that third best league performance, they came up against the second best performance in the history of English Football. By eleven millimetres.

De Gea.

Your main point has changed with the wind as each one of your arguments has been utterly destroyed. Now you're just going in circles with this one. It's pretty weak in the first place, as you still seem to be saying VvD shouldn't be responsible for his own actions because he just wanted to join Liverpool so much. On top of that, there are plenty of players that haven't acted the way he did. You keep trying to say any of those examples aren't exactly the same, which I guess you'll just keep regurgitating again and again, but you still don't have a leg to stand on.

Considering how hard we tried to hold on to him, to the point of causing at least one season to be more or less written off, it's blatantly obvious we didn't want to sell him. We wanted to build a team around him, knowing that no amount of money was going to replace him. Six years would have at least given us a chance of doing that, had VvD not done what he did. I really don't see where the logic comes from that our recruitment would magically have been better, had we decided to sell him earlier for a lower price. By virtue of being a football club, just occasionally things actually get done for footballing reasons.

Oh. Yeah. Both of them are still really highly thought of at Liverpool. In any case, neither of them went on strike to leave while they still had five years left.

Utter Legend

How many other players have moved on with five years left on a contract?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1338713.stm

It's part of the fabric of football. Club has fans. Player does something good for club, fans happy with them. Player does something bad for club, fans not happy with them. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. Also, wanting to keep hold of the best defender in the world is petty?

Most ever ex-players from one team in a CL final? It's actually a bit ridiculous.

Very sad news RIP

Incredible.

So now you're going to try and argue that Klopp is some sort of magical being that can force a player to want to join Liverpool so much that it absolves that player of any responsibility for his actions to try and join?

Aside from Luke Shaw having convinced Schneiderlin to join you mean? https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/revealed-how-luke-shaw-persuaded-6057324 In any case, it doesn't really matter whether he was tapped up or not. He wanted to move, we stopped him, and he got on and did his job for us without being a **** like VvD was. You're really going to try and argue we didn't suffer any ill effects from what VvD did?

If you want an actual direct parallel, it'd be Schneiderlin. Put in arguably his best season for us after he got tapped up by Man Utd and we turned down his move. Saints had every right to expect a player to honour more than one year of a six year contract. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous. You still haven't addressed why people shouldn't be ****ed off with someone that caused a lot of damage to the club they support. If you want evidence of them offering less than £75M, here's what they were leaking to their pet journos. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/liverpool-sign-virgil-van-dijk-10565543

I thought EVERYONE would have acted like VvD did? Well, if it's only 95% now at least we're making some progress. Liverpool weren't offering £75M to start with. They tapped him up so he'd force a move and they could get him cheaply. It was only when they got caught they decided to cough up rather than have Saints ****ed off at them and with evidence that had them dead to rights.

Like I already said, plenty of other players have been tapped up without being transferred or going on strike. Like I already said, VvD took actions that directly damaged the club he was supposed to represent, on purpose. Why shouldn't people be ****ed off with him? You're just going round in circles and you don't have a leg to stand on here.

Actually, he did. He refused to play for a while. We fined him for it. Saying everyone would do what he did is demonstrably not true, no matter how many times you bleat it.

Oxlade-Chamberlain and Lallana also possible this season. Clyne would be another but isn't in named in the squad so can't appear even if his loan is finished by then.

He had FIVE years left on his contract. At the time it was absurd to think he'd leave.

We had the best defender in the World playing for us. He had five years left on his contract. We knew that any amount of money wouldn't be enough to replace that. No one expected VvD to be as much of a **** as he was, considering it looked like he genuinely liked it here the previous two seasons. If he'd been like most footballers, he'd probably have played for another two seasons and then left.